‘Obscene’ U.S. Manga Collector Jailed 6 Months

Bill · 2010-02-13, 05:36 PM

Thoughtcrime - it's bad, m'kay!

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...at+Level%29%29

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The 40-year-old was charged under the 2003 Protect Act, which outlaws cartoons, drawings, sculptures or paintings depicting minors engaging in sexually explicit conduct, and which lack “serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.” Handley was the nation’s first to be convicted under that law for possessing cartoon art, without any evidence that he also collected or viewed genuine child pornography.

Without a plea deal with federal authorities, he faced a maximum 15-year sentence.

Comic fans were outraged, saying jailing someone over manga does not protect children from sexual abuse. “I’d say the anime community’s reaction to this, since day one, has been almost exclusively one of support for Handley and disgust with the U.S. courts and legal system,” Christopher MacDonald, editor of Anime News Network, said in an e-mail."

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tickler · 2010-02-13, 08:42 PM

I saw a bit about that a while back when I gave the Sextronix guys a link to this Wiki page about hentai legal status in different countries.

HouseEros · 2010-02-14, 03:40 PM

Free speech isn't so free.

'Ya, you can create whatever you want....as long as doesn't relate to children, etc. etc.'

I blame the Religious Right, honestly. They want to have 'freedoms' that are only as 'free' as their religious convictions permit.

A.J. Angel · 2010-02-15, 02:21 AM

Even if it's cartoon, I think it's still just wrong to get off on CP and/or beastiality.

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The case began in 2006, when customs officials intercepted and opened a package from Japan addressed to Handley. Seven books of manga inside contained cartoon drawings of minors engaged in sexually explicit acts and bestiality.

Useless · 2010-02-15, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HouseEros

I blame the Religious Right, honestly. They want to have 'freedoms' that are only as 'free' as their religious convictions permit.

I'm an Atheist and I don't like people who want to fuck kids.

Bill · 2010-02-15, 05:47 PM

By that same type of argument, every human on earth is a criminal in some other earthling's eyes.

You, by being an "atheist", for instance, deserve death in the eyes of some large percentage of humans, or at least torture and imprisonment.

And we americans do business with the japanese all the time, yet they do not have the same prohibition about sex with minors, a trait they share with well over half the earth's population.

Moral disgust varies according to brain programming. It is not an absolute measure of anything.

Trixie · 2010-02-17, 01:07 PM

What a sad fucking joke. Half the real rapes that are reported in our country don't even lead to an arrest, let alone a conviction, yet we spend time and money prosecuting people for thought crimes. It's horrifying.

I wish they'd start going after women who collect the rape porn on Oprah's book list. Double standards, anyone?

Ms Naughty · 2010-02-17, 06:30 PM

UW as distasteful as the idea is that someone might be getting off on those pics, it's still a matter of prosecuting someone for thinking rather than doing. I can think about blowing up buildings without doing it. I'm thinking it right now... and now I've said it, so are you

The hysteria about pedophilia has become a major political issue and it's driving censorship everywhere. We've had a second prosecution in Australia for possession of sexually explicit cartoons of the Simpsons. And as seem with the small boobs issue, if a model "looks" young, it's an illegal image.

We're already into the realm of thought crime prosecutions and I find that very disturbing.

InfoGuy · 2010-02-18, 06:24 AM

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The case began in 2006, when customs officials intercepted and opened a package from Japan addressed to ...

The rationale used here is very dangerous as the recipient is prosecuted, not the sender. What if someone mails a package to someone they don't like and then anonymously tips off customs? What if someone receives a spam email containing questionable content?

Useless · 2010-02-18, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by HouseEros

Free speech isn't so free.

'Ya, you can create whatever you want....as long as doesn't relate to children, etc. etc.'

I blame the Religious Right, honestly. They want to have 'freedoms' that are only as 'free' as their religious convictions permit.

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

I'm an Atheist and I don't like people who want to fuck kids.

For clarity, I was pointing out how ignorant Eros' statement was. I was neither agreeing nor disagreeing with whether or not a moron who fantasizes about screwing kids should be put in jail. The case has nothing to do with religious convictions -- if such things even exist.

ecchi · 2010-02-18, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by InfoGuy

What if someone mails a package to someone they don't like and then anonymously tips off customs? What if someone receives a spam email containing questionable content?

In the UK that is exactly the law. If you open the package or email you are deemed to have accepted it, and can be arrested. The police use that as 'proof' all the time. (Although the sender is guilty too.)

2010-02-13, 05:36 PM	#1
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	‘Obscene’ U.S. Manga Collector Jailed 6 Months Thoughtcrime - it's bad, m'kay! http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...at+Level%29%29 " The 40-year-old was charged under the 2003 Protect Act, which outlaws cartoons, drawings, sculptures or paintings depicting minors engaging in sexually explicit conduct, and which lack “serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.” Handley was the nation’s first to be convicted under that law for possessing cartoon art, without any evidence that he also collected or viewed genuine child pornography. Without a plea deal with federal authorities, he faced a maximum 15-year sentence. Comic fans were outraged, saying jailing someone over manga does not protect children from sexual abuse. “I’d say the anime community’s reaction to this, since day one, has been almost exclusively one of support for Handley and disgust with the U.S. courts and legal system,” Christopher MacDonald, editor of Anime News Network, said in an e-mail." Read More http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...#ixzz0fSTDcAIS

2010-02-13, 08:42 PM	#2
tickler If there is nobody out there, that's a lot of real estate going to waste! Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,177	I saw a bit about that a while back when I gave the Sextronix guys a link to this Wiki page about hentai legal status in different countries. __________________ Latina Twins, Solo, NN, Hardcore Latin Teen Cash

2010-02-14, 03:40 PM	#3
HouseEros Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 19	Free speech isn't so free. 'Ya, you can create whatever you want....as long as doesn't relate to children, etc. etc.' I blame the Religious Right, honestly. They want to have 'freedoms' that are only as 'free' as their religious convictions permit. __________________ HouseEros - Free Adult Sexual Roleplaying Forum

2010-02-17, 01:07 PM	#7
Trixie Hey, can you take the wheel for a second, I have to scratch my self in two places at once Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: near Seattle WA Posts: 183	What a sad fucking joke. Half the real rapes that are reported in our country don't even lead to an arrest, let alone a conviction, yet we spend time and money prosecuting people for thought crimes. It's horrifying. I wish they'd start going after women who collect the rape porn on Oprah's book list. Double standards, anyone? __________________ A Girl, a Guy, and a Tranny - Unique Indie Porn!

2010-02-17, 06:30 PM	#8
Ms Naughty old enough to be Grandma Scrotum Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,408	UW as distasteful as the idea is that someone might be getting off on those pics, it's still a matter of prosecuting someone for thinking rather than doing. I can think about blowing up buildings without doing it. I'm thinking it right now... and now I've said it, so are you The hysteria about pedophilia has become a major political issue and it's driving censorship everywhere. We've had a second prosecution in Australia for possession of sexually explicit cartoons of the Simpsons. And as seem with the small boobs issue, if a model "looks" young, it's an illegal image. We're already into the realm of thought crime prosecutions and I find that very disturbing. __________________ Promote Bright Desire

2010-02-15, 05:47 PM	#6
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	By that same type of argument, every human on earth is a criminal in some other earthling's eyes. You, by being an "atheist", for instance, deserve death in the eyes of some large percentage of humans, or at least torture and imprisonment. And we americans do business with the japanese all the time, yet they do not have the same prohibition about sex with minors, a trait they share with well over half the earth's population. Moral disgust varies according to brain programming. It is not an absolute measure of anything.