Don't You TGPOWNERS Want To Stop Being Screwed? - Page 2

Surfn · 2004-10-09, 10:06 PM

I am going to require DNA samples be included with your correct and verifiable home address, your parents names, your bank/CC numbers, etc. from now on.

Useless · 2004-10-09, 11:09 PM

I just thought I'd take a moment to say that my English comment has nothing to do the man's posts here, but is a comment about his website. Hell, the later it gets, them more broken my English becomes on these boards.

If this is such a big issue that everyone knows about, why hasn't anyone posted the url of these markets? You all seem to realize that it is unethical, but you aren't willing to help bring it out of the shadows.

Stouch · 2004-10-10, 07:15 AM

I would like to find out more about these shadow markets too, but I think if Garou pm's it to people it may be better as the cheats will just realise their info is posted on a public board and go elsewhere. There is one TGP in particular that I would like to find out more about as I tend to give partnerships to people who have partner there.

Ramster · 2004-10-10, 09:30 AM

Ok I'll play along even though I'm sitting in a hotel room a little hung over.

At first you said TGPs having partner accounts is not smart. Like already asked, what the heck is the solution then? Have no accounts and no public submits? How do we get galleries?

I have found people with more than one account at my TGP and banned them of course but the reality IS partner accounts at the best way to go No Question.

Garou · 2004-10-10, 12:40 PM

1. I will not post any urls here cuz i don't want to carry the risk and there will be no much harm to that "business"
2. Partner accounts is a very good thing to go with BUT only if every partners account is assigned to a specific domain. Thus f i have partner account for domainblabla.com i have no option of posting from another domain. (Check out pichunter - the silliest thing ever is to allow posting from multiple domains which are not specified at all. Cheaters just allow others to use those accounts for money cuz they don't build 5 galleries a day and thus hav the free spots or even worse - they make this kind of ads: "I am selling accounts on : pichunter (5 galleries a day), the shemp (3 galleries a day). Even if You post redirect You will earn much more then those $500 You spend on these accounts....").
Nowadays partner accounts do not only fail to prevent from cheating but also allow cheaters to earn huge $$$. There are ppl who are doing only 1 thing - getting partner accounts in order to sell them. This brings them more than 1 grant a month. Much more...

Isn't it really simple to assign partner accounts to speific domains?

DangerDave · 2004-10-10, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stouch
Its neither. What he is saying is a warning to all sites that use partnership systems. Your partner accounts may be being resold to cheaters, so dont think that working on partner only is foolproof.

Shemp has replied on another board to this and has stated that he has found 17 occasions this year where Shemp partner accounts are being resold.

So what exactly is the point of this thread...

IF a TGP has people selling their partner accounts.. then that is THEIR problem... to deal with.

I am sure Shemp and others are on top of this..

I don't see where this has anything to do with Garou and what he is possibly saying.

Arguing that partner accounts are to blame or are flawed is just not correct.

DD

KCat · 2004-10-10, 05:09 PM

He's making a good point, but should've said it in the original post.

To prevent cheating/selling of partner accounts, they should include:

name
email
domain(s)

Trev · 2004-10-10, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KCat
He's making a good point, but should've said it in the original post.

To prevent cheating/selling of partner accounts, they should include:

name
email
domain(s)

But that would kill all of the drama...

my favorite post....

Quote:

Yes. You are free to ask. Ask.

Garou · 2004-10-10, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trev
But that would kill all of the drama...

my favorite post....

that was a joke. I am sorry if You thought that i really meant that.

Garou · 2004-10-10, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KCat
He's making a good point, but should've said it in the original post.

To prevent cheating/selling of partner accounts, they should include:

name
email
domain(s)

yep, this thought came to me after i've started the thread. Anyways it needs to be discussed. At the moment i do not see any cons, pros only.

KCat · 2004-10-11, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trev
But that would kill all of the drama...

lol

True, but that's the thing I love most about GG&J. It's been a little elevated the last few days, but it's usually blissfully drama free over here.

Surfn · 2004-10-11, 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KCat
lol

True, but that's the thing I love most about GG&J. It's been a little elevated the last few days, but it's usually blissfully drama free over here.

Drama, what drama?

KCat · 2004-10-11, 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Surfn
Drama, what drama?

Don't you start with me now! You'll get a spanking. |whip|

Surfn · 2004-10-11, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KCat
Don't you start with me now! You'll get a spanking. |whip|

Yummy

Greenguy · 2004-10-11, 07:18 AM

Piss (aka drama) is good for a board

Ramster · 2004-10-11, 09:34 AM

Ok, I appreciate you posting info like this as I'm sure things will be looked at closely as they already are.

You should have started this post out differently to make things easier for people to follow along, that accounts are being sold.

Can a partner account be used for only One Domain? NO!!!
Why?
I personally make galleries and I push bigtits, pornstars, cumshots, babes and milf or teen occasionally. I'm not going to use one of my pornstar domains for a cumshot gallery. The root of each domain (for curious surfers) is geared towards the niche I promote as is the domain itself.

selena · 2004-10-11, 11:45 AM

I really don't think he's suggesting that partners only be able to submit using one domain.

But rather a scenario where you'd be allowed...say...10 domains per partner account, and you would have to have the domains more or less registered with the TGP, if that makes sense. If your submits weren't coming from one of those pre-approved domains, then you couldn't submit. The TGP owner is able, that way, to check whois, etc, on every domain you that will be coming in under your partner account before they are an approved domain.

My take on it, anyways.

Surfn · 2004-10-11, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by selena
I really don't think he's suggesting that partners only be able to submit using one domain.

But rather a scenario where you'd be allowed...say...10 domains per partner account, and you would have to have the domains more or less registered with the TGP, if that makes sense. If your submits weren't coming from one of those pre-approved domains, then you couldn't submit. The TGP owner is able, that way, to check whois, etc, on every domain you that will be coming in under your partner account before they are an approved domain.

My take on it, anyways.

10 domains? No way! That's just begging to get cheated.

Garou · 2004-10-11, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by selena
I really don't think he's suggesting that partners only be able to submit using one domain.

But rather a scenario where you'd be allowed...say...10 domains per partner account, and you would have to have the domains more or less registered with the TGP, if that makes sense. If your submits weren't coming from one of those pre-approved domains, then you couldn't submit. The TGP owner is able, that way, to check whois, etc, on every domain you that will be coming in under your partner account before they are an approved domain.

My take on it, anyways.

selena · 2004-10-11, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Surfn
10 domains? No way! That's just begging to get cheated.

I used 10 as an example. He never said that in any post, that I can see.

selena · 2004-10-11, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Garou

Fyi, I just got a new partner account at a stockings site. They do as you suggest...I had to give them 3 domains when I signed up, and those are the only 3 I can use to submit.

Surfn · 2004-10-11, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by selena
I used 10 as an example. He never said that in any post, that I can see.

I didn't quote him I quoted you.

Garou · 2004-10-11, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by selena

Fyi, I just got a new partner account at a stockings site. They do as you suggest...I had to give them 3 domains when I signed up, and those are the only 3 I can use to submit.

Aha, i've spoken to several tgp owners and they agreed. It may solve their problems and problems of honest submitters. And it's simple to set up

selena · 2004-10-11, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Surfn
I didn't quote him I quoted you.

That is true, you did. And as I said in the other post, I used the number 10 as an example. It could just as well have been 2 or 22.

selena · 2004-10-11, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Garou
Aha, i've spoken to several tgp owners and they agreed. It may solve their problems and problems of honest submitters. And it's simple to set up

I guess I just don't get how a problem is being solved. I follow you...I followed you on the other board I saw this on.

But if I am the type to sell off part of my partner account, how is limiting my domains going to stop that? Say I request a partner account from you, and I say I will be using domainA, domainB, and domainC. You check the whois, and they all match and it all looks legit and you approve me.

Then I turn around and sell the domainB name or usage rights of it to someone else.

So what is solved? And how is it solved?

I'm just asking rhetorically, you really don't have to answer. Or answer, and I'll read it whenver I look in again.

2004-10-09, 10:06 PM	#26
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	I am going to require DNA samples be included with your correct and verifiable home address, your parents names, your bank/CC numbers, etc. from now on. __________________ Surfn's Links Are you a partner?

2004-10-09, 11:09 PM	#27
Useless Certified Nice Person Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dirty Undies, NY Posts: 11,268	I just thought I'd take a moment to say that my English comment has nothing to do the man's posts here, but is a comment about his website. Hell, the later it gets, them more broken my English becomes on these boards. If this is such a big issue that everyone knows about, why hasn't anyone posted the url of these markets? You all seem to realize that it is unethical, but you aren't willing to help bring it out of the shadows. __________________ Click here to purchase a bridge I'm selling.

2004-10-10, 07:15 AM	#28
Stouch Operator! Give me the number for 911! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 130	I would like to find out more about these shadow markets too, but I think if Garou pm's it to people it may be better as the cheats will just realise their info is posted on a public board and go elsewhere. There is one TGP in particular that I would like to find out more about as I tend to give partnerships to people who have partner there. __________________ Nowt here

2004-10-10, 09:30 AM	#29
Ramster Life is good Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 11,867	Ok I'll play along even though I'm sitting in a hotel room a little hung over. At first you said TGPs having partner accounts is not smart. Like already asked, what the heck is the solution then? Have no accounts and no public submits? How do we get galleries? I have found people with more than one account at my TGP and banned them of course but the reality IS partner accounts at the best way to go No Question. __________________ Pornstar Legends \| Live Cam Model Shows \| Hungarian Girls Skype: robmurray999

2004-10-10, 12:40 PM	#30
Garou Lord help me, I'm just not that bright Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 106	1. I will not post any urls here cuz i don't want to carry the risk and there will be no much harm to that "business" 2. Partner accounts is a very good thing to go with BUT only if every partners account is assigned to a specific domain. Thus f i have partner account for domainblabla.com i have no option of posting from another domain. (Check out pichunter - the silliest thing ever is to allow posting from multiple domains which are not specified at all. Cheaters just allow others to use those accounts for money cuz they don't build 5 galleries a day and thus hav the free spots or even worse - they make this kind of ads: "I am selling accounts on : pichunter (5 galleries a day), the shemp (3 galleries a day). Even if You post redirect You will earn much more then those $500 You spend on these accounts...."). Nowadays partner accounts do not only fail to prevent from cheating but also allow cheaters to earn huge $$$. There are ppl who are doing only 1 thing - getting partner accounts in order to sell them. This brings them more than 1 grant a month. Much more... Isn't it really simple to assign partner accounts to speific domains? __________________ SlavaNetwork.com - new sologirl affiliate program with two brand new sologirl sites.

2004-10-10, 05:09 PM	#32
KCat With $10,000, we'd be millionaires! We could buy all kinds of useful things like ... love! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 313	He's making a good point, but should've said it in the original post. To prevent cheating/selling of partner accounts, they should include: name email domain(s)

2004-10-11, 07:18 AM	#40
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	Piss (aka drama) is good for a board __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2004-10-11, 09:34 AM	#41
Ramster Life is good Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 11,867	Ok, I appreciate you posting info like this as I'm sure things will be looked at closely as they already are. You should have started this post out differently to make things easier for people to follow along, that accounts are being sold. Can a partner account be used for only One Domain? NO!!! Why? I personally make galleries and I push bigtits, pornstars, cumshots, babes and milf or teen occasionally. I'm not going to use one of my pornstar domains for a cumshot gallery. The root of each domain (for curious surfers) is geared towards the niche I promote as is the domain itself. __________________ Pornstar Legends \| Live Cam Model Shows \| Hungarian Girls Skype: robmurray999

2004-10-11, 11:45 AM	#42
selena Oh no, I'm sweating like Roger Ebert Join Date: May 2004 Location: On the edge Posts: 592	I really don't think he's suggesting that partners only be able to submit using one domain. But rather a scenario where you'd be allowed...say...10 domains per partner account, and you would have to have the domains more or less registered with the TGP, if that makes sense. If your submits weren't coming from one of those pre-approved domains, then you couldn't submit. The TGP owner is able, that way, to check whois, etc, on every domain you that will be coming in under your partner account before they are an approved domain. My take on it, anyways. __________________ Doer of Things at MetArtMoney Skype selena.delgado9 ICQ 273551440

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