Bush 254 Kerry 252

[kristian]

As expected, it's going to be very close. Fingers crossed. Here's a good link .

[Useless]

I have completely lost faith in my fellow idiot Americans. There is no good reason for this to be a tight election. This is proof that this election should have never been left in our hands.

[Cleo]

We could always hope that a astroid falls from the sky and lands in the Bush.

[kristian]

Originally posted by Useless Warrior
I have completely lost faith in my fellow idiot Americans. There is no good reason for this to be a tight election. This is proof that this election should have never been left in our hands.

I stayed up til appx 4am my time watching it on cnn. It may be my own ignorance (probably, I can hear you say!), but the electoral voting system seems antiquated. I spent 6 years at university but must admit to falling asleep in most seminars/lectures on voting systems. The primary benefit seems that no state will be overlooked by candidates on the run up to elections. However, the drawback is obviously that your vote "may" not count, could even HELP the opposition (if I have it right). So I don't think americans are idiots, just that the voting system needs re-working (not that it will happen, given by what they've said on cnn).

Have to say I am VERY suprised it's this close. What irritates me further is having to wait 11 days before a state, such as Iowa, will even begin a thorough count. Again this, to me, seems like a law worthy of change. In an age of cnn, cbs and internet, the speed with which a decision is reached goes hand-in-hand with our faith that all is honest and every vote HAS been counted.

Anyway, fingers are still crossed for you guys (for all of us really).

[Ms Naughty]

That's better than when I last looked. But it's still not good.

It's a horrible sinking feeling, isn't it? And a sense of despair and wonder at the choices of other people.

[Useless]

Originally posted by kristian
So I don't think americans are idiots, just that the voting system needs re-working (not that it will happen, given by what they've said on cnn).

Oh no, I have to disagree with you. Look at all of the red on that map. It speaks for itself. Most Americans never step out of the bubble to take a look in from the outside. If they did, once they were done vomitting, they'd say, 'holy fuck! What a mess.'
The only thing that gives me hope is the fact that, in many states, Bush has 'won' by a very narrow margin. That means almost half of the people in many of those red states are educated or don't have sex with their siblings. Maybe even both.

[Ramster]

What is going through people's minds? Bush has killed the economy, racked up the largest deficit in American history and then there's the war issues. I don't get it? |confused|

[Jim]

Florida fucked us again

I used to have a boss that would say to people, "I do my job god damn it, why can't you do yours?"

Mexico, here we come

[kristian]

Originally posted by grandmascrotum
That's better than when I last looked. But it's still not good.

It's a horrible sinking feeling, isn't it? And a sense of despair and wonder at the choices of other people.

I have a feeling at least some of it falls down to lack of information. We work on the internet everyday. In other words, our jobs are managing information. Many americans may not have enough information to make a decision which reflects decisions they would make if they were in possession of more information. One reason EVs are so close is most states are accustomed to voting republican or democratic. A landslide is almost impossible because many americans will not be stayed from a party, regardless of the man in charge (same happens in the uk). I;'m still hopeful though.

[kristian]

Originally posted by Useless Warrior
Oh no, I have to disagree with you. Look at all of the red on that map. It speaks for itself. Most Americans never step out of the bubble to take a look in from the outside. If they did, once they were done vomitting, they'd say, 'holy fuck! What a mess.'
The only thing that gives me hope is the fact that, in many states, Bush has 'won' by a very narrow margin. That means almost half of the people in many of those red states are educated or don't have sex with their siblings. Maybe even both.

I do see your point, but I have to be careful how I agree with you on this point, considering international pornography relations

[kristian]

Originally posted by kristian
I do see your point, but I have to be careful how I agree with you on this point, considering international pornography relations

edit : The average englishman is thicker than pigshit. It makes be fucking sick actually how the english gentleman has been systematically reduced to a Sun-reading, uneducated football hooligan. Dont even get me started.

[Fonz]

If you guys want I can look out for a few good houses to live in in my neighbourhood

[Greenguy]

I am officially pissed of at 58,176,979 Americans

[Jim]

I am serious Fonz. Even my wife, Victoria, has no interest in staying around here. Mexico looks really good. Imagine, living like kings with the money we make. My wife's favorite food, Mexican. No more snow. And best of all...being able to laugh at stupid americans for having such a moron for a president.

[Useless]

Originally posted by kristian
I do see your point, but I have to be careful how I agree with you on this point, considering international pornography relations

That's why I said it first. I wouldn't expect any non-American to come here and tell us how dumb we are, even if statistics show us that at least 51% of us are. And in a land where the majority rules... well, you get my point.

[kristian]

Originally posted by Jim
I am serious Fonz. Even my wife, Victoria, has no interest in staying around here. Mexico looks really good. Imagine, living like kings with the money we make. My wife's favorite food, Mexican. No more snow. And best of all...being able to laugh at stupid americans for having such a moron for a president.

In all honesty I would probably do exactly the same thing. Not necessarily Mexico, but I'd take my family out of the country. I'd suggest you look at England but the USD is worth shit over here because of Bush.

[kristian]

Originally posted by Useless Warrior
That's why I said it first. I wouldn't expect any non-American to come here and tell us how dumb we are, even if statistics show us that at least 51% of us are. And in a land where the majority rules... well, you get my point.

I get you dude. I think its great you can make me laugh even on a fucked up day like today.

[plateman]

You know who voted for bush the assholes that dont care anyone has a job and are more worried about morals..

[Jim]

This whole moral thing has me confused. Why was having to Gay people being legally united such a big deal during this election? Who is anyone to tell people how they can live?

[Rainbo1956]

My prediction is, that if you don’t get your passports in order now, you’ll have a very hard time of it in the not so far off future!

While I don’t really think there will be a mass exodus now, I truly believe that many Americans will want to get the hell out of America when the shit “really” starts to hit the preverbal fan!
I believe that isn’t too far off.

Do you honestly think the Bush administration wants this or will allow this? Hell NO

The USA is going to make it harder and harder for their citizens to obtain their passports.
And, make it harder and harder for any citizen to leave the country.

You can or may disagree, that’s fine.

But, the simple truth of the matter is, as more and more Americans leave the US for other countries, bringing along their families, their American currency, skills, businesses and tax paying dollars….the Government loses. This wont set well with the “ Police State” we’re heading for.

It isn’t for just another 4 more years. The damage that the Bush administration is going to cause will last for many, many years after.

[JoeBlack]

Originally posted by Jim
Florida fucked us again

I used to have a boss that would say to people, "I do my job god damn it, why can't you do yours?"

Mexico, here we come

I tottaly agree with you Jim. You would think after being cheated out of there votes last time the Democrats would have made sure that they all went out and voted so that there would be no possible mistake this time. I am very disappointed in most of America right now. To see all that red on the map is ridiculous.

I just don't get how you can run an economy into the ground, go to War with a person who did not attack us, still leave the one who did out there, lose 3 debates, and still be clamed the winner.

I just don't get it.

[serenity]

I am speechless.

[Rocco]

We could always hope that a astroid falls from the sky and lands in the Bush.

that's a good one Cleo

LOL

[tiny]

I just don't know what we are thinking half the time.Friggin Ohio of all places should have been a give me.
They think things thier have gotten better the last 8 months BIG smoke screen.
I've never seen so many damn religious stats in my life and that will probly be the big factor when its all said and done.
With this country as fucked up as it is WHY don't people want change even if Kerry is kinda whimpy.
Damn right I voted Kerry here in Maine and so did the people so I gotta atleast give Maine credit they know the economy sucks up here.
And sadly enough its not the porn threat that worries me its everything else thats so fucked up and people still voted his ass back in.
I felt before that we should dump the EC and take what the people say even if its not the out come we want.
Instead we're waiting for the outcome that we know will happen.
I'm seriously thinking of moving.I decided never to go back to Cali and after lastnight
I know I'll stick to that.How can they vote to spend 3.5billion when already 5billion in the red.

Its over Kerry just gave up

[Greenguy]

CNN just said that Kerry will concede to Bush at 1