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Old 2005-12-27, 01:36 PM   #26
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I'll give you $10 for the domain... only because I am nice.
I pegged you as more of a Christina Aguilera fan. She's got that whole slutty white trash thing going for her. I'm willing to sell you I-FuckedMandyInTheAss4TenBucks-and-Asked4FiveBack.com

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Finally a sensible person with the highest number of posts among all other posters. That made more sense to me then any other post posted above.
That's |Jim - He owns the place. Trust me, when he read your post he was thinking "What a stupid cocksucker."
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Old 2005-12-27, 01:39 PM   #27
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That's |Jim - He owns the place. Trust me, when he read your post he was thinking "What a stupid cocksucker."

Trust me, when he posted in my thread he wasn't thinking that.
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Old 2005-12-27, 01:41 PM   #28
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Trust me, when he posted in my thread he wasn't thinking that.
No - you trust me. I know Jim. That may not have been his exact thought when he read your post, but I'll bet that 'cocksucker' was definately part of it.
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Old 2005-12-27, 02:34 PM   #29
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Trust us... Jim was pretty much thinking that. The only difference is that Jim spent long enough working PR and affiliate relations to not say "stupid cocksucker" but instead to say "there might be money somewhere else".

Now, back to the action.

Your stats thing is missing two important items... number of bot visits, and more importantly, the keywords you are getting traffic for. 40k a month of hits for "mandy moore free song downloads" or "mandy moore awards show" have different value to start with.

I notice that the majority of your traffic comes from a search engine that does not provide adult results. So taking this domain with the intention of taking it "adult" would mean a major loss in hits.

Knowing WHERE the traffic comes from and why would go a long way to showing what it is worth.

Short term (3 months or less) traffic results doesn't begin to justify a 2 year lease with a big price.

As Ramster said, misleading people from "mandy moore" to "hot mandy sucks cock" would land you in a mess of trouble. That sort of case has already been tried and they guy already lost.

So...

$11.50. Final offer. Purchase, no lease.

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Old 2005-12-27, 03:12 PM   #30
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I'll send a check to the address below. Go ahead and transfer the domain to me. I'll just transfer it back in 2 years.

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Old 2005-12-27, 03:15 PM   #31
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My stats are not missing anything, these things coubd be easily asked for and I can make them available on request. As long as nobody is asking for them, I am not making them available. The keywords most attracted by visitors through search engine are not important at this time, unless you are willing to continue working on the domain as a fan of Mandy Moore.

Number of bots visiting site, all in and out traffic can be made available. If you look carefully you can easily see Referrers link on the blog for most recent referrers. Requiring all incoming traffic log can be made available, again, as long as nobody is asking it can't be made available.

If you get a a big domain two months before, getting 100K visits per day doesn't mean it is not valuable and that it is not justified for the next ten years. You are wrong.

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As Ramster said, misleading people from "mandy moore" to "hot mandy sucks cock" would land you in a mess of trouble. That sort of case has already been tried and they guy already lost.
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$11.50. Final offer. Purchase, no lease.
For you it is $11.75, but oh no.. you lose.
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Old 2005-12-27, 03:18 PM   #32
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I'll send a check to the address below. Go ahead and transfer the domain to me. I'll just transfer it back in 2 years.

Billing Contact:
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Aece McCloud (mdadnan@gmail.com)
123 East Cote Avenue
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Tel. +44.07908481571


And your point being? I will do the transfer once I receive the check on the above address.
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Old 2005-12-27, 03:23 PM   #33
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Generally people are not hostile here and in fact this is one of the most amiable boards that you'll find.

The reason people think you’re a cock sucker is that you believe adult webmasters are interested in pushing porn onto those that are underage. We are not and if we were that would make us cock suckers. You’ve been watching way too much O’Reilly.

Yes, we do believe that parents should take responsibility for their children but we also want to help them so peddling this domain here is wrong. That and the fact that I can’t imagine anyone would pay $8,500 for the domain and leasing it would be stupid because any long term promotion would be foolish and type in traffic you’re not getting.
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Old 2005-12-27, 03:42 PM   #34
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Bottom line is adult webmasters are not going to buy or advertise on a web site that has traffic from many people under the age of 18. Think about it. We are professionals and regardless of anything you might here real adult webmasters do not target people under 18.

The other issue is we all buy and sell domains regularly. Your domain is not worth $8500. A site with 2,000 or so hits a day (adult traffic or not) is not worth anywhere near that amount of money.

Quite honestly it is not worth $1000 even to buy outright. And since it is targeting underage material mostly it isn't worth the trouble to purchase for one second.
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Old 2005-12-27, 03:43 PM   #35
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Thank you for your concern. Ramster & SirMoby, your post was the second sensible message posted by someone, who is probably a regular poster of this board.

When you say, adult webmasters here won't push porn down to teenagers who were previously visiting my website, then it can only be agreed by reasonable discussion. I AM and still AM the webmaster of current website and it would be very silly of me to give it away for a porn website even for $8,500. (here there is no point, no sarcasm, just fact)

There are certain reasons that I am allowing domain for such a site (personal reasons). And no I don't think whatever you call me is justified without knowing the actual reason except for calling it a bogus offer.

You call it an amiable board. I don't see any difference compared to other boards if I compare the treatment received to my post. For me its just the number of members which is comparatively better than other boards.

You are probably right, that someone might be stupid enough to accept this offer on lease for two years. But for me this is not a day to day accepted offer and would require planning for someone to accept this offer. It also requires not just how much the traffic received to this domain but also the market attractiveness for a pron site for such domain availability. I am not saying it is the best domain out there, but it is still worth a shot. There is still strategy available when shifting from teenie bopper website to a porn website, but your point of discussion before making a sale is clear hostile in nature.

If you don't realise I lost my interest in making a deal on this board, long time ago on page 1 of the thread.
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Old 2005-12-27, 03:48 PM   #36
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I pegged you as more of a Christina Aguilera fan. She's got that whole slutty white trash thing going for her. I'm willing to sell you I-FuckedMandyInTheAss4TenBucks-and-Asked4FiveBack.com

That's |Jim - He owns the place. Trust me, when he read your post he was thinking "What a stupid cocksucker."
You are correct, my friend
I don't want to call him that but Jesus Christ, if you have a domain that is targeted towards underage people, keep them away from adult sites.

This is why most people I talk to outside of the business think of us as scum...people like michaelkane who try to make Adult money from underage surfers.
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Old 2005-12-27, 03:52 PM   #37
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people like michaelkane who try to make Adult money from underage surfers.
If that was my intention then I would have started a porn site long time ago.
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Old 2005-12-27, 04:20 PM   #38
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So then why the heck are you trying to sell the domain to porn people?

Had you started the thread with "Mandy Moore Blog for sale", you might gotten at least a slightly different result. Instead, you tried to sell traffic to people who buy traffic: porn people.

What you may kid yourself as your intention and the reality of your actions are two different things.

If you are truly the webmaster of this site, why hasn't it been updated in 7 months? Has Mandy Moore become a nun and taken a sabbatical?

I smell what the rock is cooking.

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Old 2005-12-27, 04:28 PM   #39
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1. I am not selling traffic received.
2. I am not selling blog to other people.
3. My intention was to lease only domain services. As previously said traffic is only an addin.
4. I already said I do not have time to update site anymore, at least not now.

This discussion won't proceed because I have my reasons and you have yours. No one is interested in the domain and I lost mine.
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Old 2005-12-27, 04:37 PM   #40
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I still fail to see why you came here in the first place.

One more thing as you're on the way out. If you think you can sell (not lease) that domain anywhere else for more than a few bucks, then I have some ocean front property in New Mexico that you might be interested in.

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1. I am not selling traffic received.
2. I am not selling blog to other people.
3. My intention was to lease only domain services. As previously said traffic is only an addin.
4. I already said I do not have time to update site anymore, at least not now.

This discussion won't proceed because I have my reasons and you have yours. No one is interested in the domain and I lost mine.
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Sad but in their email they says
FatPaychecks has been paying webmasters like clockwork since 1995
Whois says
Record created on 02-07-2001

And, I seem to remember the first paysite paying for traffic around early 1998

Maybe I just missed the party 2 and a half years before I started
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Old 2005-12-27, 05:05 PM   #42
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Sad but in their email they says
FatPaychecks has been paying webmasters like clockwork since 1995
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And, I seem to remember the first paysite paying for traffic around early 1998

Maybe I just missed the party 2 and a half years before I started

Are you posting in the wrong thread Jim.
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Old 2005-12-27, 06:10 PM   #43
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Are you posting in the wrong thread Jim.

LOL I thought that came from out in left field!
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Old 2005-12-27, 07:05 PM   #44
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then I have some ocean front property in New Mexico that you might be interested in.
Dude! That would be perfect for me. I want the desert and the wife wants the beach. Hook me up
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Old 2005-12-27, 07:35 PM   #45
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First off - the whois is obviously faked - which leads most people to distrust right off the bat
here's your last whois as of two months ago:
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Tel. +91.2412462

Second - the domain has been up for sale at Sedo for a bit for $1000 - why so much for a lease?

Third - well I was gonna make a remark about the crossover from underage to adult site - but figure you'll make your own legal problems there

Fourth - the site had no visitors until April this year - then you started adding it to a few BBS's and forums out there - then in October you started buying traffic and each visit went to approx 9 average pages - not a standard traffic pattern at all - especially when you go down to the bottom of your stats and out of that many people only 23 had the favicon request set to on??? Sounds like the bots are messed up a bit.
Although - it was pretty convient to leave out the most important section of the stats that shows the referrers and search engine terms - you had the rest of the stats there except for that pane in AWStats

Fifth - and most important - the highest referrer you did leave in the stats is a herbal remedies spam site owned by a guy in Russia - my guess would be that is where one of the bots is housed

But it was a nice try though
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Old 2005-12-27, 09:03 PM   #47
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If this was the zoo, I would say PWN3D!

That is going to sting.

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Old 2005-12-27, 09:41 PM   #48
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I've got more posts than anyone & I'll start out by saying: What a stupid cocksucker.

New domain: $10-20
40K traffic: $120-280 from Choker

$8500 for a $300 domain that you have to give back in 2 years?

If you can explain why that's a good deal, I'm all fucking ears
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8500??? 8500 USD?? are you sure it's 8500??

i have this bridge in Brooklyn that could be moved to my swamp land in Florida for only 8500 USD. 2 year lease.

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