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Old 2004-12-17, 09:13 AM   #1
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Looks like a Xmas Dance at Google

Id say that some major changes are underway - it looks like a traditional dance from way back - seeing backlinks changing, PR in the Directory is changing and SERPs are rolling back to old August results - Although I do see three different sets of results pushing their way around the net - hopefully this will settle down in the next few days
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Old 2004-12-17, 10:02 AM   #2
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A ton of spam on cat keywords I can tell you that.

Hopefully it starts to right itself a bit soon....(of course it always does....but days feel like years!)

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Old 2004-12-17, 04:24 PM   #3
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Stuff is on the move... backwards in some cases... be interesting to see where it all lands.

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Old 2004-12-17, 06:44 PM   #4
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Unfortunately - so far Ive been totally removed from most of my #1 spots - but I think its way far from over - I did also notice that a keyword that normally gets 400 mill SERP results is only showing 78 mill right now so thats a good sign.

I also found quite a few database errors in Googles database - urls that have been mixed up with other domains that I dont even own - at first I thought they were site scrapers and almost posted about it here - but then I realized I not only know the guy but have talked with him and he doesnt even have those directories on his domain and yes I do trust him completely.
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Old 2004-12-17, 11:58 PM   #5
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Looking horrible here so far
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Old 2004-12-18, 01:39 AM   #6
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I've completely dropped off the face of Google
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Old 2004-12-18, 02:40 AM   #7
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I gained some ground in google, and yahoo is having a shake up also and gaining back some of what I lost and slurpy has been fixed so they say.. I watch yahoo very close.. and lately yahoo and google and msn have been sending more traffic to me..

IMHO google will shuffle back sites that been in the front of the serps for so long in 2005 because its the same old sites with high link pop. that rule there terms and google will loose traffic to other SE's and I think they know it..
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Old 2004-12-18, 04:40 AM   #8
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I'm loving Yahoo right now. I got a HUGE boost in SERPs in some MAJOR keywords. Please God let it stay this way for at least a little while. I'm kinda expecting to lose those SERP's any time now.
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Old 2004-12-18, 05:20 AM   #9
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Old 2004-12-18, 11:29 AM   #10
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Old 2004-12-18, 01:05 PM   #11
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Nifty tool for those who are in flux (which pretty much seems to be all of us):

http://www.seochat.com/seo-tools/future-pagerank/
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Old 2004-12-18, 03:03 PM   #12
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Thanx MadMax
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We are experiencing high load volume right now, please wait a minute and try again. The problem should be resolved momentarily.

that tool seems to be very popular today
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Old 2004-12-19, 12:07 PM   #13
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Damn!!

I was checking my server stats and saw a huge decrease in hits the last couple of days. I check google...where the hell am I? Page 1 rankings down to nowhere land.

One term I always do good for, free mpegs, has rape and beast sites on page 1 and 2? WTF is that? Google will surely fix that I hope!!
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Old 2004-12-19, 12:13 PM   #14
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yea Ramster...

I see a lot of freehosts....sub domains...spammy crap....sorta like last time they did a large update....for 3 weeks I was killed, but then was quite happy.......

So heres to hoping that any beers we drnk in Vegas don't have our tears in them!!

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Old 2004-12-19, 02:53 PM   #15
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I'd love to show you an accurate representation of what google has done to me with this update.

However I'd need a real doll with a life like anus, 3 pounds of C4 explosives, and a shotgun.

Hopefully google wil figure out wtf its doing and either change it or fix it or something!

cause man, my serps got filled with spam, and shitsites no one has ever heard of.

This algorythm is insane apparantly.
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Old 2004-12-20, 04:16 AM   #16
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Once again, Google does a VERY ill advised adjustment to their algo, and the end up with HUGE piles of shitty sites taking up every term you can think of.

Once again, they have managed to push a PSB.ORG page up to the top 10 of the term "porn".

The second item for the term "findpics" doesn't have a single reference or link from anything findpics, not a single mention in the cache, nothing.

I have had one site go from about 500-1000 google hits a day for a variety of mixed terms to 3.

I go back and look at those terms, and 90% of the pages don't even have a cached page (they are cloaking and asking google not to show their shit). Click the link, get redirected.

Scumware sites, toolbar sites...

Congrats Google, you just made MSN look good. 40 billion for this?

Sheesh!

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Old 2004-12-20, 02:26 PM   #17
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Is this update over? Or is it still bouncing around? It seems I picked up some more traffic but nothing really big, but definitely more hits from google.
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Old 2004-12-20, 05:00 PM   #18
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Updates often happen like this. A huge crash in traffic (or the opposite, when one is lucky), followed by a gradual recovery as they bring in more filters and the update continues.

It often takes up to three weeks for everything to settle down after the first big shock.

Then, week after week for another month or so, small changes.

Then finally the update is fully over and all you have left is freshbot and the standard daily changes.

(except when it happens differently... my philosophy is, never trust google.)
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Old 2004-12-20, 05:07 PM   #19
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I usually follow the results for the keyword "sex"
Its a pretty good indicator of where they are in the update
The term until August had 200 mill results - during the August update they dropped it to 60 mill where it stayed for about 2 weeks - then recovered when they added the "serving 8 billion pages" statement on their home page and then the "sex" results went to around 398 million
This week they were up to 400 million until Thursday when they dropped to 78 mill.
Im still seeing most data centers right around the 76-78 mill results so Id have to say theyve got a bit to go

I did see the Google Directory has been updated with changes in positions as of Friday, and a backlinks update that looks like its about done. I havent watched PR in some time but Im told that it hasnt wavered too much yet - so Id be looking for that soon

Bill - thats about the normal "dance" when they are trying some new algo out which is what I think they are doing this time Looked almost exactly like the one in August so Im pretty sure that things will take the 2-3 weeks to settle out with "freshbot" runs
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Old 2004-12-21, 06:56 AM   #20
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Indeed, there is a dance going on... and as always all my top #1 serps went to hell But the good thing is that they were allways back to #1 after 2-3 weeks. Who knows maybe santa google will bring them back with and additional PR point to my domain ?
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Old 2004-12-21, 06:49 PM   #21
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add:

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to the search result url and .... WHOAM!!
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Old 2004-12-21, 06:57 PM   #22
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and read what googleguy said in past:

http://www.markcarey.com/googleguy-s...lter-zero.html
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Old 2004-12-21, 07:04 PM   #23
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Thanks Rocco, nice one, the results with the filter=0 are just like before the dance.
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Old 2004-12-21, 07:51 PM   #24
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http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum3/14342.htm#msg4
is a link to the whole thread
Its interesting because Ive been hit with the same thing this time - and I also have a secondary URL showing up in Google in this format www.domain%20.com how they came up with that space in the url is beyond me
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Old 2004-12-21, 08:28 PM   #25
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