What the hell is a Donkey Punch?

Ms Naughty · 2005-02-27, 07:04 PM

Ecchi, thanks for your rant, but you obviously misunderstood what I was saying.

Read my post again.

These things are NOT about masochism, they're not about Femdom, they're not about me saying women can't enjoy being hurt, and it's not about me saying I think women into masochism are perverts. As I said, if it's consensual, it's fine.

I'm saying that these made up sex acts aren't about consensual sex at all, they're about thinking of ways to humiliate and hurt women who do NOT want to be hurt. And I find that very disturbing.

However, and yes, this is judgemental, I do find it hard to understand why a woman would want to be absolutely and utterly brutalised in bed, to the point that it is physically harmful (as opposed to safe consensual play). It's all very well to be tolerant, but there comes a point where I have to say, no I personally don't understand it and it makes me wonder about what would motivate a woman to be turned on by that

My opinion.

ecchi · 2005-02-27, 07:17 PM

What I was actually saying is: (taking your paragraph "I'm saying that these made up sex acts aren't about consensual sex at all, they're about thinking of ways to humiliate and hurt women who do NOT want to be hurt. And I find that very disturbing.")

These are NOT "made up sex acts" and although it is hard to believe some women do want to be hurt and humiliated like this.

What I find disturbing is that most men and some women are not able to accept that woman can be allowed to make decisions for themselves like this, and take the view that "as they are only women they need our help". And really disturbing is that often people with these views cannot even see why this is sexist.

And as to true cruelty to women, mental cruelty is a lot worse than physical cruelty. If there are any women members of this board who are into this sort of thing, your continual insistence that this is wrong (or disturbing, or whatever words you use) is a worse thing to do to them than any man who inflicts the physical things discussed on unwilling women.

In other words, posting "I do find it hard to understand why a woman would want to be absolutely and utterly brutalised in bed, to the point that it is physically harmful (as opposed to safe consensual play). It's all very well to be tolerant, but there comes a point where I have to say, no I personally don't understand it and it makes me wonder about what would motivate a woman to be turned on by that" Is as bad, if not worse, than a guy who gets his thrills beating up women.

ecchi · 2005-02-27, 07:23 PM

Yeah, sorry, I am coming on stronger than etiquette allows. But this sort of belittling of women really makes my blood boil.

2005-02-27, 07:04 PM	#1
Ms Naughty old enough to be Grandma Scrotum Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,408	Ecchi, thanks for your rant, but you obviously misunderstood what I was saying. Read my post again. These things are NOT about masochism, they're not about Femdom, they're not about me saying women can't enjoy being hurt, and it's not about me saying I think women into masochism are perverts. As I said, if it's consensual, it's fine. I'm saying that these made up sex acts aren't about consensual sex at all, they're about thinking of ways to humiliate and hurt women who do NOT want to be hurt. And I find that very disturbing. However, and yes, this is judgemental, I do find it hard to understand why a woman would want to be absolutely and utterly brutalised in bed, to the point that it is physically harmful (as opposed to safe consensual play). It's all very well to be tolerant, but there comes a point where I have to say, no I personally don't understand it and it makes me wonder about what would motivate a woman to be turned on by that My opinion. __________________ Promote Bright Desire Last edited by Ms Naughty; 2005-02-27 at 07:09 PM..

2005-02-27, 07:17 PM	#2
ecchi Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: About to be evicted!!!! Posts: 4,082	What I was actually saying is: (taking your paragraph "I'm saying that these made up sex acts aren't about consensual sex at all, they're about thinking of ways to humiliate and hurt women who do NOT want to be hurt. And I find that very disturbing.") These are NOT "made up sex acts" and although it is hard to believe some women do want to be hurt and humiliated like this. What I find disturbing is that most men and some women are not able to accept that woman can be allowed to make decisions for themselves like this, and take the view that "as they are only women they need our help". And really disturbing is that often people with these views cannot even see why this is sexist. And as to true cruelty to women, mental cruelty is a lot worse than physical cruelty. If there are any women members of this board who are into this sort of thing, your continual insistence that this is wrong (or disturbing, or whatever words you use) is a worse thing to do to them than any man who inflicts the physical things discussed on unwilling women. In other words, posting "I do find it hard to understand why a woman would want to be absolutely and utterly brutalised in bed, to the point that it is physically harmful (as opposed to safe consensual play). It's all very well to be tolerant, but there comes a point where I have to say, no I personally don't understand it and it makes me wonder about what would motivate a woman to be turned on by that" Is as bad, if not worse, than a guy who gets his thrills beating up women. Last edited by ecchi; 2005-02-27 at 07:21 PM..

2005-02-27, 07:23 PM	#3
ecchi Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: About to be evicted!!!! Posts: 4,082	Yeah, sorry, I am coming on stronger than etiquette allows. But this sort of belittling of women really makes my blood boil.