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2005-02-28, 03:15 AM
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adulttrafficgenerator.com is a fraud ?
Hi Everyone.
is anyone can tell me how should i deal with this guy ! i purchased traffic from adulttrafficgenerator.com 100k for 200$ we agreed that he will sent me 20k a day a 5 day campaign. after near 2 month all he did is senting 37k i asked for a refund for 2 weeks he tells me wait 2 days wait 2 days, and than he tells he will charge me double for the lousy 37k he sents and my refund will be 52$ instead of 126$ i know we are not talking about big bucks here,but it makes me angry 1st he sold me something he didnt had in a first place and than charge me double cause he couldt keep his part of a deal ! anyone has a suggestion where to report this asshole so he wont be able to cheat other webmasters ? |
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2005-02-28, 09:00 AM
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The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep
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Calling him out on the boards is always a good idea
 You could also consult a lawyer & at the very least send him papers about the problem. |
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2005-02-28, 09:35 AM
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i think a lawyer gonna cost more than the 100$ bucks
 but its became a matter of principle and not of the money and i dont want this guy will get away free of doing such things ! |
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2005-02-28, 10:10 AM
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How did you pay? Paypal or epassporte? Put in a complaint. That'll screw up his account too.
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2005-02-28, 10:43 AM
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i paid by paypal as i remmember paypal has a 3 weeks policy of refunding money but i think i will put in a complaint anyway
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2005-02-28, 10:50 AM
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Paypal for adult traffic? They'll freeze his account indefinately if you report him. Of course, they'll probably freeze yours too.
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2005-02-28, 10:50 AM
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If it was, then PayPal will not care about the 3 week rule... just make sure you mention that it was adult traffic  |
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2005-02-28, 11:48 AM
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hmm thx i will
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2005-02-28, 03:42 PM
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WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school?
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Yeah I agree with what Useless Warrior said they'll probably freeze his account but like Useless Warrior said there's a good chance that they'll do the same thing to your account as well.
So if your going to take that route than you should consider this before doing so, and be prepared that your Paypal account could be frozen as well. So if you think you may need to use your paypal account than you might want to see if there's something else you could do before doing this. Than again you might could just send paypal a link to there website showing that there allowing paypal as payment option for buying adult traffic. That way they may freeze there account for having that info on there and nothing might not happen to your account. Since you didn't give them any info about sending payment to them using paypal. If you do that though you might want to just send them that info without using the same email address that's on your paypal account in case they decide to check into that. Not saying for sure that will work but it may be the best route to take that might keep your paypal account out of it. |
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2005-02-28, 03:49 PM
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i already filed a complaint using my account i dont really use paypal alot, but what is the reason to freeze my account and why is paypal so dislike adult traffic ?
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2005-02-28, 03:58 PM
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WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school?
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Well I'm not sure why they don't but all I know is I'm pretty sure you can't use paypal as a payment option on an adult site and I also don't think you can use it to buy anything from an adult site.
You might use to be able to not sure but could have been when Ebay took over Paypal. I know you use to be able to use paypal as payment options to gambling sites like party poker...etc and now they don't allow that anymore either. |
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2005-02-28, 04:09 PM
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i see but its not reason to freeze my account i hope it will go well and these bustard will get punished and return me my money !
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2005-02-28, 05:53 PM
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Paypal states in their TOS that they do not allow "adult transactions", and that includes transactions involving adult traffic. If you read carefully, they also have the right to "fine" you $500 for using Paypal for "adult services".
They made the change when they were purchased by ebay about a year ago. EBay wanted to wash it hands of the adult business, and I also suspect that Paypal/Ebay were pressured by the credit card companies to take their stance. Whatever the case, it's foolish to use Paypal for adult transactions, especially when there are so many other processors that welcome our business (eg. epassporte, moneybookers).
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2005-02-28, 06:46 PM
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2005-02-28, 07:20 PM
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I can understand your frustrations and problems, but destroying his paypal account, whether you all are supposed to use it for whatever purpose or not wasn't very professional. It's likely that whatever money is in your account is now history as well. They will not be returning your money. They will be locking your account soon. AST
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2005-02-28, 09:24 PM
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WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school?
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Like this one, "I can understand your frustrations and problems, but destroying his paypal account, whether you all are supposed to use it for whatever purpose or not wasn't very professional." Yeah maybe it wasn't what you would call very professional but the guy ripped him out of some cash and didn't deliver what he was suppose to. So he's not turning him in because you don't suppose to use it for that purpose but because you don't suppose to use it for that purpose gives him a reason to turn him in for that. It's a different issue if he was turning him in for that purpose and if that was his only reason. I mean that's between those 2 as far as what they do but if the guy ripped him off like he said than I sure don't feel sorry for him if he loses his paypal account. Just my opinion of course and this is without knowing all of the details...etc but if it happen like he said and he actually tried talking to the guy about it...etc than as I said I don't blame him. |
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2005-02-28, 10:14 PM
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I'm going to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for TEN MINUTES
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How would he refund your money if his paypal is shut down?
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2005-02-28, 10:40 PM
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WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school?
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If you noticed I said if it happened like he said and if he tried talking to the guy about it. In other words if he hasn't already talked to the guy about getting his refund back than he should do so before taking any actions IMO. Personally I don't know exactly what happened that's why I said if it happened like he said and if he tried talking to the guy....etc So I wouldn't do this unless I atleast tried to work things out before hand. I'm also not saying I would take these same actions but just saying if the guy ripped him off like he said and he tried talking to him and the guys still not willing to give him a refund than I was just saying that I don't blame him. I might not would do it this way but I can't feel sorry for someone losing there paypal account if they where trying to rip someone off. So like I said I wouldn't do this and/or he shouldn't do this unless he already tried to get the refund but the guy wouldn't give it to him. So in other words I don't know what actually happen, that's why I said it was between those 2 but just saying if his story is true than I don't blame him. Also sorry for such a long reply but to add to that my point was that I would give the guy a chance to refund my money before taking action with paypal as well as any other actions you might would take...etc I'm not really one to get into these type of things when they don't involve me. So I don't want to make a big deal about it or anything like that. I just thought it was kind of hard to look at what he was doing as un-professional when the other guy was trying to rip him off. |
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2005-03-01, 12:05 AM
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Honestly, anyone in this industry that's using Paypal to conduct adult site business is just asking for trouble. This thread is a great example of why it's a bad idea. One disgruntled customer goes to Paypal and bang! Account closed. Why take the risk? There are other payment options.
Sorry you got ripped off Leon. Hope you learned something from this.
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2005-03-01, 12:15 AM
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I'm going to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for TEN MINUTES
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Not taking sides, but there are two sides to every story......and we haven't heard from Turboface....
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2005-03-01, 12:25 AM
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Obviously, Paypal stills gets used a fair bit for adult related business, but it's best done behind the scenes and only with people you know and trust. It's just far too risky to use out in the open, especially with strangers. Just ask TheButcher.
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2005-03-01, 12:36 AM
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2005-03-01, 01:17 AM
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WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school?
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I have no clue but I never said he should do anything just because of his story, I said if what he said was true and he tried talking to the person...etc than I don't blame him. I'm like you and not taking sides as far as the story goes and my comments was based on if what he was saying is true or not. To add to that I don't know the person that started this thread or the person that runs the site that there talking about. Anyway I hope things work out and maybe they can resolve this problem, I have no clue who's at fault. If the guys story is accurate than the guy that was selling him the traffic could have saved himself alot of trouble, by refunding his money back to him if he wasn't able to deliver the traffic like he promised. Like I said though if the guys story is true and I'm not taking sides but just saying if it was than that would have been the easiest and smartest thing to do. |
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2005-03-01, 02:39 AM
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I'm of the opinion that you should complete exhaust friendly discussion on icq, email, etc before posting to a forum and or doing something like the paypal thing.
I've seen that guy post on other forums, perhaps posting there might have been a better idea. Often there are two sides to every story or at least a reason for what happened, etc. Anyway, this way is more entertaining though for forum readers  |
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2005-03-01, 03:50 AM
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the strangiest thing that this guy is actually happy about it he likes being reported to paypal and etc.. as a fraud cause he actually encourges me to do so and as i see it he probably did it more than once already and abviously planning to rip people off in the future
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