need advice on stretching my dollar

Ramster · 2005-03-30, 03:24 PM

Traffic for what? Galleries? Or to your link list/free sites?

neticule · 2005-03-30, 03:37 PM

im still not to sure, i wanted to see what options i had first. I want to send traffic to my main site, porn-folder.com - but im not sure it would be worth it, for ppc traffic I would have a page set up for a particular sponsor, like a FPA except with about 10 pages, a few free galleries and such. an example would be http://www.porn-folder.com/met-art/ which is a fpa i made for met-art, thats not the sponsor i would use in particular, just an example.

but most likely, it will not be traffic for galleries, its been over a year since ive made a tgp gallery, and Im in no rush to make any more

so most likely i would point the traffic towards either my main site/linklist if its bulk traffic, or towards a page specifically made for selling if its ppc. I would however think about making a few galleries if there was a very good place that would send traffic to them.

Bill · 2005-03-30, 04:16 PM

If I only had 200 to spend I would definitely not spend it on traffic. The return is too short lived and nowhere near high enough.

Altho a tommys account might be a good investment. I don't consider that "buying traffic".

I personally would buy and develop domains. The return is much higher, and it lasts.

neticule · 2005-03-30, 04:44 PM

well, if i could spend 200 on traffic, and turn it into 300, and then spend 300 and turn it into 400 etc etc, how is it not worth it?

I do agree with buying more domains and the other things you mentioned, which i am going to be doing, but money has already been put aside for those things you mentioned and i have some left over for traffic.

Bill · 2005-03-30, 05:09 PM

Well, there's never a guarantee that you will make money on purchased traffic, and only an experienced buyer can feel fairly certain of a return.

If you have a target for the traffic that you are confident about, then that's somewhat different.

But, as I understand it, you are just getting back in, so the chances of your having a reliable money making target are not so good.

It's up to you. Ram says he's never lost money (sorry dude, I'm taking a bit of liberty here, I know you've lost, just not in general...). But I have. Now, I can afford to lose it, and losing 200 would be written off to the learning curve for me.

If you have 200 that you can afford to lose, give it a try.

But, there are other ways to spend that money that quarantee that you will not lose.

Mr. Blue · 2005-03-30, 06:02 PM

One thing for sure, the $50 for the submit pass to tommy's is the best $50 you'll spend.

Buying traffic is insanely hit or miss...Sometimes a traffic source can be really good for you with one run and then miserable for you the next. I've tried Choker, 1 time successful, and right now I'm starting up another run of advertising and I'm doing so-so (too early to tell though).

Google adwords used to be good for my mainstream pages, I never tried them on adult pages. Someone that has might want to elaborate here. It's Search Engine traffic so it'll be overall more productive, but I've heard from a few that adwords hasn't been as effective for them recently.

One thing for certain, if the deal sounds too good to be true...it probably is. If you see cheap traffic, it's just that cheap traffic and not really worth that much.

I would definitely spend the $50 for Tommy's...you'll get great traffic. If you did more galleries I would probably recommend picking up some other submit passes...but since that's not your focus that's probably not something you would want to explore.

neticule · 2005-03-30, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill

I personally would buy and develop domains. The return is much higher, and it lasts.

Im interested on knowing how I would go about developing new domain names, if I already have minimal traffic, I cant understand how a new domain could be developed without purchasing traffic for it, I use my free sites to feed my main linklist, and that proves very hard, with 5,000 visits to my free site, i end up with maybe 50-100 of those going to my main site.

I guess its been so long since I have started a domain from scratch, with 0 traffic that I dont know how to "develop" it, without investing in traffic for it if you see what I mean. I can of course make feeder sites, but like i mentioned above, even making and submitting free sites daily, i get a very minimal amount of traffic to my main site...

Some input would be very much appreciated

thanks!

Bill · 2005-03-30, 10:06 PM

Well, I mentioned developing domains because it's something I'm familiar with. But, there are other things. For instance, I always make money on buying content, and would consider 200 on content a guaranteed money maker.

With domains, as long as you don't just park the domain, it's hard not to make your money back, untill you reach the point where you have too many domains to manage.

You have to get some pages up, some text written, use trusted sponsor links (don't put new untested sponsors on these pages), and link them up to get any type of search engine spiders to them, and they will almost always give you 400-800% return. Of course most pages will carry a link to your LL as well.

There's quite a few different approaches to this. Just putting submitted freesites on new domains is usually enough to make them pay- that is, not only do you get the sales from the subbed freesites, but the increased activity on the domain attracts spiders, and the increased link popularity strengthens your main sites. (in this case, presumably you consider your LL your main moneymaking site.)

It can get way more complicated than that, but that's the essence of it. Names are real estate, and by developing them you increase you footprint in the net.

2005-03-30, 03:24 PM	#1
Ramster Life is good Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 11,871	Traffic for what? Galleries? Or to your link list/free sites? __________________ Pornstar Legends \| Live Cam Model Shows \| Hungarian Girls Skype: robmurray999

2005-03-30, 03:37 PM	#2
neticule A boy without mischief is like a bowling ball without a liquid center Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 437	hmm im still not to sure, i wanted to see what options i had first. I want to send traffic to my main site, porn-folder.com - but im not sure it would be worth it, for ppc traffic I would have a page set up for a particular sponsor, like a FPA except with about 10 pages, a few free galleries and such. an example would be http://www.porn-folder.com/met-art/ which is a fpa i made for met-art, thats not the sponsor i would use in particular, just an example. but most likely, it will not be traffic for galleries, its been over a year since ive made a tgp gallery, and Im in no rush to make any more so most likely i would point the traffic towards either my main site/linklist if its bulk traffic, or towards a page specifically made for selling if its ppc. I would however think about making a few galleries if there was a very good place that would send traffic to them. __________________ Mom, I'm done! Come wipe!

2005-03-30, 04:44 PM	#4
neticule A boy without mischief is like a bowling ball without a liquid center Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 437	hmm well, if i could spend 200 on traffic, and turn it into 300, and then spend 300 and turn it into 400 etc etc, how is it not worth it? I do agree with buying more domains and the other things you mentioned, which i am going to be doing, but money has already been put aside for those things you mentioned and i have some left over for traffic. __________________ Mom, I'm done! Come wipe!

2005-03-30, 04:16 PM	#3
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	If I only had 200 to spend I would definitely not spend it on traffic. The return is too short lived and nowhere near high enough. Altho a tommys account might be a good investment. I don't consider that "buying traffic". I personally would buy and develop domains. The return is much higher, and it lasts.

2005-03-30, 05:09 PM	#5
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	Well, there's never a guarantee that you will make money on purchased traffic, and only an experienced buyer can feel fairly certain of a return. If you have a target for the traffic that you are confident about, then that's somewhat different. But, as I understand it, you are just getting back in, so the chances of your having a reliable money making target are not so good. It's up to you. Ram says he's never lost money (sorry dude, I'm taking a bit of liberty here, I know you've lost, just not in general...). But I have. Now, I can afford to lose it, and losing 200 would be written off to the learning curve for me. If you have 200 that you can afford to lose, give it a try. But, there are other ways to spend that money that quarantee that you will not lose.

2005-03-30, 06:02 PM	#6
Mr. Blue Searching for Jimmy Hoffa Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 771	One thing for sure, the $50 for the submit pass to tommy's is the best $50 you'll spend. Buying traffic is insanely hit or miss...Sometimes a traffic source can be really good for you with one run and then miserable for you the next. I've tried Choker, 1 time successful, and right now I'm starting up another run of advertising and I'm doing so-so (too early to tell though). Google adwords used to be good for my mainstream pages, I never tried them on adult pages. Someone that has might want to elaborate here. It's Search Engine traffic so it'll be overall more productive, but I've heard from a few that adwords hasn't been as effective for them recently. One thing for certain, if the deal sounds too good to be true...it probably is. If you see cheap traffic, it's just that cheap traffic and not really worth that much. I would definitely spend the $50 for Tommy's...you'll get great traffic. If you did more galleries I would probably recommend picking up some other submit passes...but since that's not your focus that's probably not something you would want to explore.

2005-03-30, 10:06 PM	#8
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	Well, I mentioned developing domains because it's something I'm familiar with. But, there are other things. For instance, I always make money on buying content, and would consider 200 on content a guaranteed money maker. With domains, as long as you don't just park the domain, it's hard not to make your money back, untill you reach the point where you have too many domains to manage. You have to get some pages up, some text written, use trusted sponsor links (don't put new untested sponsors on these pages), and link them up to get any type of search engine spiders to them, and they will almost always give you 400-800% return. Of course most pages will carry a link to your LL as well. There's quite a few different approaches to this. Just putting submitted freesites on new domains is usually enough to make them pay- that is, not only do you get the sales from the subbed freesites, but the increased activity on the domain attracts spiders, and the increased link popularity strengthens your main sites. (in this case, presumably you consider your LL your main moneymaking site.) It can get way more complicated than that, but that's the essence of it. Names are real estate, and by developing them you increase you footprint in the net.