This forum is nothing but stolen content

juggernaut · 2005-05-09, 10:40 AM

Oh an dont forget kinky they are not only ripping your stuff. They are trying to sell it. I was reading this place and if you look on allot of the posts they are asking for contributers. IE send us money. Other thing is one of the places they are offering there files from (mostly the vids) are here
http://rapidshare.de/en/premium.html
You dont have to pay but if you want the file right then and now you have to pay. Oh an that site is taking paypal which might be a nice report to paypal being they are offering porno and a pay service. It's my understanding that if you pay for a membership to a site threw paypal the site can not offer any adult stuff at all. Seems they are offering you quicker access to the porn to me.

Kinky · 2005-05-09, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juggernaut

Oh an dont forget kinky they are not only ripping your stuff. They are trying to sell it. I was reading this place and if you look on allot of the posts they are asking for contributers. IE send us money. Other thing is one of the places they are offering there files from (mostly the vids) are here
http://rapidshare.de/en/premium.html
You dont have to pay but if you want the file right then and now you have to pay. Oh an that site is taking paypal which might be a nice report to paypal being they are offering porno and a pay service. It's my understanding that if you pay for a membership to a site threw paypal the site can not offer any adult stuff at all. Seems they are offering you quicker access to the porn to me.

yeah sites like that are slowly killing this business... people trade zip files like I use to trade baseball cards... it's nice to see the mods on that "forum" asking for more posts of stolen content

ronnie · 2005-05-09, 11:10 AM

I "heard" paypal would even fine a site selling adult stuff, heard $500. Not sure if it is true.

Then again, if they are always asking for donations, might be that they are not making money and might go away. We can only hope.

ronnie

neveremail · 2005-05-09, 11:30 AM

Please keep us all posted on the outcome, its nice to see these leechers go down.

hank0r · 2005-05-10, 08:54 AM

Hey guys,
I'm a moderator of the discussed forum, and speaking in behalf of the owner, since he doesn't have much to do with the forum (he's running the mainsite). Be that as it may, I understand that paysite owner don't want to see full-sets posted on forums. But that's reality, this forum is just one out of hundreds where pics are being posted. Of course some paysite owner contacted us with the request to remove their content, which we did immediately. (Eg. SpunkyCash and Playboy). We also set up a rule, which forbids to post content from these paysites. Of course ppl don't read rules and still post these pics, but if we notice it, we delete them.

That's one possibility, the other possibility is way better and a win/win situation for both. Some other paysites noticed also that their content has been posted on the forum. But instead of removing it completely they started to post the stuff on their own and generate a good revenue. Sites we're working with:

- http://www.sexycanadiangirls.com/ (two models are posting officially on the website, pics + videos)
example thread: http://forum.phun.org/showthread.php?t=25523

- http://www.ann-angel.com/ / http://digitalangeldollars.com/ (ann is posting)
example thread: http://forum.phun.org/showthread.php...ight=ann-angel

- http://www.sexymette.com/ (she's posting)
example: http://forum.phun.org/showthread.php?t=25200

- http://www.bahamatye.com/ (tye and kory are posting)
example: http://forum.phun.org/showthread.php?t=23990

- http://www.diddylicious.com/ (webmaster is posting)
example: http://forum.phun.org/showthread.php?t=24073

And that are only the fews I currently can think of. Like I said, this is the ideal way for both sides to live and prosper. Our forum gets nice pics, probably directly posted by the model and the paysite receives free traffic + sign-ups (I know some numbers, it's more than you would think...)

Last but not least I have correct the statement of juggernaut, because that's completely wrong.
Rapidshare is a own (in the meanwhile mid-sized company), which has absolutely nothing to do with the forum. They are just offering webspace/traffic for movies. But with a download limit of 20mb / hour. If you want more you have to pay for it, but why should we get a penny from them? Doesn't make sense, so please think the next time before you reply.

2005-05-10, 09:40 AM

What few people realise is the porn buyer wants one style of a particular niche. He also wants a level and quality that will never go with free content.

Not a mish mash of different styles, niches and poor quality that free sites off. If free sites were the problem there would not be a TGP site with any content on it.

Their has been free porn from day one of porn. Live with it and ask yourself why does your work not compete with it. Problem is with some they are free porn surfers trying to sell porn and wonder why they have a problem.

So I can put up some threads telling them all about my paysite?

hank0r · 2005-05-10, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham2

So I can put up some threads telling them all about my paysite?

Yeah definitively, but of course not just one link to the main site (that wouldn't convert anyway, since it looks like spam) like:

"Hey guys, this paysite rocks"

But if you add some nice pics (10-20), like on a regular gallery you would submit to thehun.com and tell the ppl if they want more, they should visit your site, that's absolutely ok.

If you want to do it on a regular basis, I have to talk to cayne, but if he can sign-up and use his ref-code I'm sure he will be ok with it too.

Cliff · 2005-05-10, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham2

What few people realise is the porn buyer wants one style of a particular niche. He also wants a level and quality that will never go with free content.

Not a mish mash of different styles, niches and poor quality that free sites off. If free sites were the problem there would not be a TGP site with any content on it.

I think from the above statement, that you have no idea how free sites and link lists work.

Or are you getting mixed up between galleries and free sites?

If you don't know the difference between the two, how are you qualified to make any comment about traffic sources?

urb · 2005-05-10, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hank0r

Hey guys,
I'm a moderator of the discussed forum,

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2005-05-09, 11:30 AM	#4
neveremail Oh no, I'm sweating like Roger Ebert Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 504	Please keep us all posted on the outcome, its nice to see these leechers go down. __________________ Please Re-Read The Rules For Sig Files

2005-05-09, 10:40 AM	#1
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	Oh an dont forget kinky they are not only ripping your stuff. They are trying to sell it. I was reading this place and if you look on allot of the posts they are asking for contributers. IE send us money. Other thing is one of the places they are offering there files from (mostly the vids) are here http://rapidshare.de/en/premium.html You dont have to pay but if you want the file right then and now you have to pay. Oh an that site is taking paypal which might be a nice report to paypal being they are offering porno and a pay service. It's my understanding that if you pay for a membership to a site threw paypal the site can not offer any adult stuff at all. Seems they are offering you quicker access to the porn to me.

2005-05-09, 11:10 AM	#3
ronnie Wheither you think you can or you think you can't, Your right. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: midwest Posts: 2,274	I "heard" paypal would even fine a site selling adult stuff, heard $500. Not sure if it is true. Then again, if they are always asking for donations, might be that they are not making money and might go away. We can only hope. ronnie

2005-05-10, 08:54 AM	#5
hank0r Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2	Hey guys, I'm a moderator of the discussed forum, and speaking in behalf of the owner, since he doesn't have much to do with the forum (he's running the mainsite). Be that as it may, I understand that paysite owner don't want to see full-sets posted on forums. But that's reality, this forum is just one out of hundreds where pics are being posted. Of course some paysite owner contacted us with the request to remove their content, which we did immediately. (Eg. SpunkyCash and Playboy). We also set up a rule, which forbids to post content from these paysites. Of course ppl don't read rules and still post these pics, but if we notice it, we delete them. That's one possibility, the other possibility is way better and a win/win situation for both. Some other paysites noticed also that their content has been posted on the forum. But instead of removing it completely they started to post the stuff on their own and generate a good revenue. Sites we're working with: - http://www.sexycanadiangirls.com/ (two models are posting officially on the website, pics + videos) example thread: http://forum.phun.org/showthread.php?t=25523 - http://www.ann-angel.com/ / http://digitalangeldollars.com/ (ann is posting) example thread: http://forum.phun.org/showthread.php...ight=ann-angel - http://www.sexymette.com/ (she's posting) example: http://forum.phun.org/showthread.php?t=25200 - http://www.bahamatye.com/ (tye and kory are posting) example: http://forum.phun.org/showthread.php?t=23990 - http://www.diddylicious.com/ (webmaster is posting) example: http://forum.phun.org/showthread.php?t=24073 And that are only the fews I currently can think of. Like I said, this is the ideal way for both sides to live and prosper. Our forum gets nice pics, probably directly posted by the model and the paysite receives free traffic + sign-ups (I know some numbers, it's more than you would think...) Last but not least I have correct the statement of juggernaut, because that's completely wrong. Rapidshare is a own (in the meanwhile mid-sized company), which has absolutely nothing to do with the forum. They are just offering webspace/traffic for movies. But with a download limit of 20mb / hour. If you want more you have to pay for it, but why should we get a penny from them? Doesn't make sense, so please think the next time before you reply.

2005-05-10, 09:40 AM	#6
Paul Markham2 Guest Posts: n/a	What few people realise is the porn buyer wants one style of a particular niche. He also wants a level and quality that will never go with free content. Not a mish mash of different styles, niches and poor quality that free sites off. If free sites were the problem there would not be a TGP site with any content on it. Their has been free porn from day one of porn. Live with it and ask yourself why does your work not compete with it. Problem is with some they are free porn surfers trying to sell porn and wonder why they have a problem. So I can put up some threads telling them all about my paysite?