2257 Spit Take - The Christian view

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by tickler

"About 47 percent of Christians say pornography is a major problem in the home"

99.44% of pornographers have a problem with Christians...and oddly enough, the other .56% have a problem with

[NotThatKevin]

More children are sexually abused by the individuals in the religious community than by individuals in the adult industry.

If I remember correctly - In Australia we have had over 4,000 complaints filed with the police for child sex abuse by the church and not one child sex abuse case has ever been filed against any worker in the sex industry here.

I'm a member of EROS who represents the sex industry in Australia and every time the churches open their mouths they get hit straight back with these embarrassing facts.

[mrMagoo]

This article is filled with such outright lies and nonsense.

I't always makes me disappointed and sad that a religion based on a book that says 'know the truth and the truth will set you free' spends so much of their time spinning half truths and spouting bald face lies.

Of course, I guess I forget that it is for my own good that they bullshit me.

It is no wonder that they are largely supportive of an administration that lectures the world on how to be democratic, then fights a war on its own people to restrict their rights.

Lying, I guess, when it serves a 'higher' purpose like manipulating others to live their lives as one sees fit, or to send them to their deaths over imaginary weapons is OK.

[mrMagoo]

"Much of pornography or hardcore material that is shown is considered obscene material by law and that's illegal," he said. "If we simply enforce the law, it would have a significant effect."

I don't know how this could be since obscenity is defined locally and really what is obscene cannot be known until after a court case. Of course this is one problem with obscenity laws in the first place, that one cannot know before hand whether one is violating them or not.

Secondly, obscenity laws, as they relate to private enjoyment at home, transfer through the mail, and transfer over the internet have been found to be unconstitutional by a federal judge in a recent court case - extreme associates v reno.

I believe that the DOJ is going to appeal that decision.

More info on that case here:
http://www.peak.org/mailing-list/arc.../msg05988.html

[gigi]

Originally Posted by NotThatKevin

More children are sexually abused by the individuals in the religious community than by individuals in the adult industry.

If I remember correctly - In Australia we have had over 4,000 complaints filed with the police for child sex abuse by the church and not one child sex abuse case has ever been filed against any worker in the sex industry here.

I'm a member of EROS who represents the sex industry in Australia and every time the churches open their mouths they get hit straight back with these embarrassing facts.

Good for you! Sometimes they need to see reality as it truly is....

[Mishi]

Originally Posted by NotThatKevin

More children are sexually abused by the individuals in the religious community than by individuals in the adult industry.

If I remember correctly - In Australia we have had over 4,000 complaints filed with the police for child sex abuse by the church and not one child sex abuse case has ever been filed against any worker in the sex industry here.

I'm a member of EROS who represents the sex industry in Australia and every time the churches open their mouths they get hit straight back with these embarrassing facts.

THIS is the kind of thing we need in the US - an organization that will not just beg for money and make vague promises, but actually show ACTION, on a regular basis. Has there been a follow-up press release or article to that piece of shit the AP put out a day or so ago? That's a sincere question, and I would be very happy if the answer was "yes".

Where is our lobby???