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Ramster · 2005-07-13, 09:17 AM

When I look at my stats I see most of my income comes from smaller programs as well. I agree that I think the smaller sites will do a bit more for you knowing that if you're sending 50-100 sales a month that they actually appreciate it. And some of the smaller sites may put out a better more personal product.

Linkster · 2005-07-13, 10:34 AM

One thing Ive always done with the revshare smaller sites - is to join the site - of course not with my rev code - but to see if the site would really retain.
I have seen some that wont retain past a 5 day trial - and then I have one where they are still retaining members from 5 years ago - so its something to investigate before commiting a huge amount of traffic to

Halfdeck · 2005-07-13, 10:54 AM

I have the easiest time promoting paysites I'm dying to join -- which generally means no mega sponsors. I build sites surrounding revshare sites I like or PPS with good ratio from smaller sponsors, then use a few big sponsor programs to catch jaded traffic looking for free/cheap porn.

AdultCEO · 2005-07-13, 05:53 PM

I prefer smaller sponsors.
The biggest advantage for me is that you have the chance to promote sites that not everyone else out there promote...

Useless · 2005-07-13, 06:34 PM

I love small programs. I just don't get the feeling that they are intentionally cheating me, but get that feeling a lot with big sponsors.

Ya know what's funny? Five posters in this thread who like small sponsors have a button for ARS in their sig.

Lunatic · 2005-07-13, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Ya know what's funny? Five posters in this thread who like small sponsors have a button for ARS in their sig.

LOL

Like I say, give me a big commision up front, and then let the sponsor make their money by retaining the surfer and from upsells. ARS can even offer higher commisions since they don't have a revshare program anymore.

Bill · 2005-07-13, 08:08 PM

Big programs convert much better than small programs, and the money is better.

You guys must not be selling right.

There can be exceptions, small programs that really retain members, and they are great when you find them.

But dollar for dollar, you will earn more with big name programs. And you get the money up front.

tickler · 2005-07-14, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Ya know what's funny? Five posters in this thread who like small sponsors have a button for ARS in their sig.

Could be because my best converting small sites don't have a WM refferal program. No sense bringing in extra competition if there is nothing in it for me.

Bill, keep in mind that the bigger sponsors are also cross selling like crazy to bring you the bigger payouts. You only need to look at the $5-10 less per console free sale to get an ideal. Also some even pop hard hitting consoles without your links in front of the surfer when they go to the paysite.

Bill · 2005-07-14, 03:38 AM

The big name sponsors treat you like shit. It's a given.

But my big checks always come from the bigger sponsors. That's just my personal experience. Click for click, more money from the bigger sponors. Yes, even taking recurring into account. Yes, even with companies like fucking ars collapsing.

Maybe my sales experience is just odd. Maybe my luck with ccbill, and the defunct globill and ibill, has just been a run of bad luck.

But, the big sponsors are a dying breed, and they will probably fold or reorganize sometime in the next two years. So, if you take that into account, the new breed of ccbill etc recurring may be all that's available, and from that perspective, small sponsors win out.

2005-07-13, 09:17 AM	#1
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2005-07-13, 10:34 AM	#2
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	One thing Ive always done with the revshare smaller sites - is to join the site - of course not with my rev code - but to see if the site would really retain. I have seen some that wont retain past a 5 day trial - and then I have one where they are still retaining members from 5 years ago - so its something to investigate before commiting a huge amount of traffic to __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2005-07-13, 10:54 AM	#3
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2005-07-13, 05:53 PM	#4
AdultCEO Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 24	I prefer smaller sponsors. The biggest advantage for me is that you have the chance to promote sites that not everyone else out there promote... __________________ <a href="http://stats.ars4real.com/wmref/click.php?type=but&a=1027394" target="_blank"> <img border="0" src="http://stats.ars4real.com/wmref/load.php?type=but&a=1027394"></a>

2005-07-13, 06:34 PM	#5
Useless Certified Nice Person Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dirty Undies, NY Posts: 11,268	I love small programs. I just don't get the feeling that they are intentionally cheating me, but get that feeling a lot with big sponsors. Ya know what's funny? Five posters in this thread who like small sponsors have a button for ARS in their sig. __________________ Click here to purchase a bridge I'm selling.

2005-07-13, 08:08 PM	#7
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	Big programs convert much better than small programs, and the money is better. You guys must not be selling right. There can be exceptions, small programs that really retain members, and they are great when you find them. But dollar for dollar, you will earn more with big name programs. And you get the money up front.

2005-07-14, 03:38 AM	#9
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	The big name sponsors treat you like shit. It's a given. But my big checks always come from the bigger sponsors. That's just my personal experience. Click for click, more money from the bigger sponors. Yes, even taking recurring into account. Yes, even with companies like fucking ars collapsing. Maybe my sales experience is just odd. Maybe my luck with ccbill, and the defunct globill and ibill, has just been a run of bad luck. But, the big sponsors are a dying breed, and they will probably fold or reorganize sometime in the next two years. So, if you take that into account, the new breed of ccbill etc recurring may be all that's available, and from that perspective, small sponsors win out.