2006 Internext and AVN running at the same time.

[Torn Rose]

use to be Treasure Island, but I think they got rid of the Pirate ship and now call it TI

[Torn Rose]

http://www.treasureisland.com/

[madleinx]

Wow. Sounds crowded...and too rich for my blood. |shocking| Guess it's good that I wasn't planning to go anyway.

Do any of y'all go to the Phoenix show? I've never been to any shows....Are some better than others?

[docholly]

Maybe I should open "Goodhead B & B" that week.. 300 a night and i have 2 spare bedrooms.. and McDonalds is open here 24/7 for breakfast..

Actually the Treasure Island is a good choice for the location..

The monorail has actually operated for the last 6 months so we may be ok on that. Also the new Wynn has opened directly across Spring Mt. from the Sands Expo/Venetian so that will take some of the CES crowd.

If 2006 January is anything like this years, you'll need a boat not a taxi to get down the strip.

[SirMoby]

Sometimes it's better to NOT be within walking distance. A cab will not take you across the street even if it is 3/4 of a mile by walkway and side walk but will take you 4 miles to another hotel. The cab ride is almost faster then the walk as well.

[plateman]

I dont know I may go if I can make more money this fall and maybe find someone to bunk with, I dont mind maybe 100 - 175 a night but fuck 300 plus and I too like to gamble lately... been playing the slots about a hour away out of state..

[Greenguy]

TI is right across the street from the Venetian & there is a nice little walkway over the strip. Harrah's is next door & is an easy walk as well. Anything else is a hike.

[emmanuelle]

Well there is the Imperial Palace at about $50/night, but the corridors smell like urine

[Ramster]

Imperial Palace is next door but yes I heard bad things about it. LOL

AVN is making this show a show for sponsors to go and meet and party together instead of with webmasters. Regular webmasters CANNOT afford to go which is where the money is made for the sponsors. Too bad!!!!!!!!!!

[Useless]

Originally Posted by emmanuelle

Well there is the Imperial Palace at about $50/night, but the corridors smell like urine

Well I don't want to go there. I don't need anything reminding me of home when I'm in Vegas.

[Kenny B!]

I’m not too happy with the shows being on the same dates, I really enjoyed hitting the CES show after Internext, it made it worth while to stay those couple extra days to check out all the new electronics and gadgets. I don’t expect the folks at AVN to work around my schedule but they have some pretty big exhibitors that buy booth space at both shows, I would imagine it’s going to be pain for them to have 2 booths and rotate their talent between both shows.

I have a feeling this is going to be a sign of things to come. As smaller shows become more predominant the January Internext will be merged with the Adult Entertainment Expo and we’ll have the August show as the “Internet Based” trade show.

As for hotels to stay in while in Vegas I have stayed at quite a few hotels, just to try a new place and see what they have to offer, and they all offer a bed and ugly carpet lol! I recommend staying at TI like everyone else has mentioned, it’s only a few minute walk to the Venetian.

[Linkster]

For those considering Treasure Isle their cheapest room for the same dates is $269 per night for a king bed room for the 4th through the 8th nights - cheaper on other dates

[emmanuelle]

Last year's overlap seemed to work out fine, although Internext lost out on some bigger exhibitors like Wicked who were forced to choose where their booth would be most productive. I did find that since I was attending the trade-only day (the overlapped day) at AEE, that my Internext experience felt rushed.
While I appreciate smaller hotel bills due to a shorter stay; I have mixed feelings about the overlap. There isn't enough time for everything in the condensed version, and our show is going to end up lost in the shuffle since AEE is certainly more profitable for AVN.
Finally, we will end up overwhelmed with consumer types on our floor, diluting the ROI for booth owners; as well as educating far too many surfers about the backend of our industry.

[SirMoby]

Originally Posted by Kenny B!

we’ll have the August show as the “Internet Based” trade show.

I predict that next year Florida will not be the 2nd largest North American show. People will continue to go to Vegas because it is Vegas but the show will continue to loose webmasters every year.

Other sites like Phoenix that focus on the customer (us) will soon become the big shows that you must attend.

[Dr Bizzaro]

Originally Posted by SirMoby

I predict that next year Florida will not be the 2nd largest North American show. People will continue to go to Vegas because it is Vegas but the show will continue to loose webmasters every year.

Other sites like Phoenix that focus on the customer (us) will soon become the big shows that you must attend.

I think your right about that.

Last year it cost me just as much to go to Miami, as it did to go to Vegas. And Miami is no Vegas....
I was not happy with the changes they made to the Miami show. (Plus I was invited elsewhere for the weekend. )

It will be interesting to hear what the response is from the webmasters who are going.

[Trev]

Originally Posted by Ramster

AVN is making this show a show for sponsors to go and meet and party together instead of with webmasters. Regular webmasters CANNOT afford to go which is where the money is made for the sponsors. Too bad!!!!!!!!!!

And they'll all be trying to impress each other by swinging the biggest dick, so the parties shold be over the top. (just remember to shave very closely )

[emmanuelle]

Does this mean you want to go? We have room for you |egg|

Originally Posted by Trev

And they'll all be trying to impress each other by swinging the biggest dick, so the parties shold be over the top. (just remember to shave very closely )

[Jim]

I wonder how much money AVN is saving by having both shows at the same time. I know how much they will be passing on to the webmaster....none.

[Trev]

Originally Posted by emmanuelle

Does this mean you want to go? We have room for you |egg|

oh yeah... I'm a real party animal.

[Greenguy]

I can see them offering some sort of combo pass for both shows, knowing that most people will not go to both & they will make an extra $100 or so of everyone that buys one.

[Lunatic]

Originally Posted by Ramster

AVN is making this show a show for sponsors to go and meet and party together instead of with webmasters. Regular webmasters CANNOT afford to go which is where the money is made for the sponsors. Too bad!!!!!!!!!!

Exactly my thoughts Since the majority of the webmasters are regular webmasters, the sponsors and other companies are losing out on a good source of input on how they can improve their business models.

[SirMoby]

I'm waiting for them to announce that you'll have to have a badge to even enter the Venetian. It's funny but I called the Westin in Florida and they don't know they're going to be closed to the public

[Dr Bizzaro]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

I can see them offering some sort of combo pass for both shows, knowing that most people will not go to both & they will make an extra $100 or so of everyone that buys one.

Stop giving them ideas on how to make more money off us....

[Toby]

AVN's first priority has always been adult videos, and second has been sponsor programs. They don't even have an understanding of the independent adult webmasters role in the industry. Until some major sponsors notice that they're spending big bucks to set up booths and just talk amongst themselves will anything get done about it.

Maybe they can send FSC the same wake-up call. Neither organization seems to understand that for every sponsor and video producer there are thousands of independent adult webmasters.

[Surfn]

This past Vegas show I left after two days because the layout was so incredibly poor and there was no attempt to move people through the badge process in a timely fashion.

Still I did make a some new contacts in those few days I've consulted with a couple of sponsors here in the U.S. and One sponsor from the U.K. all their programs are/were good they were trying to tweak them even better.

I told myself when I left the last show in January that it was indeed my last show. And it is. As more and more of us experienced webmasters start dropping out of attending who will these sponsors turn to? I don't know that answer. As a businesses owner I do know that want the broadest input possible before arriving at a decision.

I believe the regional gathering will grow to be more effective. And so will the alternative gatherings, someone I know (lol) is planing a gathering in Virgin Islands on the same date as the Vegas show for webmasters who want to network

Sorry about the long post but I can see the hand writing on the wall and if you can't...well you can't.