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Old 2005-09-09, 12:55 AM   #1
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free sites with excessive consoles will not be listed !!

Hi all I just reviewed a site and clicked on a tour and got hit with a bunch of exit consoles that were immune to the 3 pop-up blockers I have and on top of that set off norton with a download trojon... I was gonna ban and delete a 116 sites to a regular submitter but maybe he didnt know.. So I will give him the benifit of the doubt.. IMO I think the time is coming to be like the tgps and not list free sites with consoles on the tours, I know I wouldnt come back to a LL that I just got put through the ringer and set off an alert...

Infact I been stepping up on strictness on listing any sites... To many people trying to get listed with shitty content... way to many people submitting the same sponsor, same pay site and generally the same content... day after day...

and in general way to many submitters using tricky text links to trick surfers to the tour... and a lot of board members that submitt should know better.. looks like private submitters are a soon thing on my LL..

also way way to many submitters are using to big of graphics for ads.. when I was on vacation reviewing on dialup and you have to wait for a page to load with a HPA and another big HOZ banner.. that surfer is gone.. people on dialup buy too and when they have to wait a hour to see your page your gonna loose a sale...

And then you get those newer webmasters that email you back after a rejection(i send very few) That say hey I am not posting shit for free... think yes you are.. your chasing people away from your free site and the site its on.. big flashing ads and text or more free pictures here and then they get hit with a bunch of consoles.. LOL..

then you have the same people using sponsor content day after day and whats bad is mostly its over used.. I can see if you cant afford any.. then use something that is not used by everybody.. I use sponsor content mostly movies but I also buy picture content.. and there's a time when you gotta buy and it seems nobody wants to buy anymore... I dont know about others peoples LL but the free sites are, been getting bad... who knows maybe the death of being able to submitt to LL will be that the submitters will ruin it for themselfs.. and almost all LL in the very near future will have a small number of very trusted private submitters and more and more HFS will rule the LL..
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Old 2005-09-09, 01:04 AM   #2
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Try reviewing from a "foreign" proxy - now that'll be an eye opener
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Old 2005-09-09, 04:14 AM   #3
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My humble little tgp got a big boost in traffic and bookmarkers the second I added the rule regarding no consoles on the sponsor tours. It really does matter to the surfer that they're not jerked around too much.

I wish Autogal would come out with something that can scan the links though...it's added a lot of time to the reviewing process...especially when you get stuck in a chained console nightmare from hell.
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Old 2005-09-09, 05:14 AM   #4
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then you have the same people using sponsor content day after day and whats bad is mostly its over used.. I can see if you cant afford any.. then use something that is not used by everybody.. I use sponsor content mostly movies but I also buy picture content.. and there's a time when you gotta buy and it seems nobody wants to buy anymore... I dont know about others peoples LL but the free sites are, been getting bad... who knows maybe the death of being able to submitt to LL will be that the submitters will ruin it for themselfs.. and almost all LL in the very near future will have a small number of very trusted private submitters and more and more HFS will rule the LL..
LL buisnes is in stable condition. I mean there are no more and more submitters day by day. Amount of submitters is constant. Yes sponsor's content pretty overused, but sponsors keep shooting new content...So i can't see a reason why free conent will be a lot overused tomorrow like today...
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Old 2005-09-09, 07:33 AM   #5
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I rejected one of my partners sites a couple of hours ago because they were using a sponsor that popup an endless loop of crap and there was no way back except to kill the page/site.


I will not list crap like that when you can make good money without pissing off the surfer or the reviewer.

I doubt this person checked their own sponsor link.
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Old 2005-09-11, 12:35 PM   #6
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HFS can't gives backlinks
Uhm.. I know one company that adds backlinks to your LL on HFS... probably they are worth nothing so far but I think it good direction and could be the future of HFS


Could you please share which sponsor console links you find too agressive? Personally I didn't notice any sale increase when using popup free links but it would be stupid to get banned.. huh
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Old 2005-09-11, 06:00 PM   #7
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You reject one of my free sites with spacash links.
Reason:
sites with excessive consoles or other bullshit will not listed.
I know, what they have one console or maybe it's rejected for other bullshit?

Free site url: http://www.hot-sex-porn.com/interrac...s/black-porno/

P.S. About hpa and vertical or graphical banner adds: I don't care, if surfer use modem connection, because all my sites have video content and have a word "video" or "movie" in the title, so they are not my costumers, IMHO
Maybe I'm wrong...
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Old 2005-09-11, 08:30 PM   #8
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You reject one of my free sites with spacash links.
Reason:
sites with excessive consoles or other bullshit will not listed.
I know, what they have one console or maybe it's rejected for other bullshit?

Free site url: http://www.hot-sex-porn.com/interrac...s/black-porno/

P.S. About hpa and vertical or graphical banner adds: I don't care, if surfer use modem connection, because all my sites have video content and have a word "video" or "movie" in the title, so they are not my costumers, IMHO
Maybe I'm wrong...
I get 3 pop-ups after clicking a banner on the site gilbert..

and the other BS would be if after the pop-ups a download trojen or installs, not saying your sponsor has that..
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Old 2005-09-11, 08:43 PM   #9
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Uhm.. I know one company that adds backlinks to your LL on HFS... probably they are worth nothing so far but I think it good direction and could be the future of HFS


Could you please share which sponsor console links you find too agressive? Personally I didn't notice any sale increase when using popup free links but it would be stupid to get banned.. huh
Platinum Bucks, a submitter subbed a free site and I wanted to see the pay site and it had 7 or 8 windows and install and set off my norton for a download trojen, and hardly anything gets by my pop-up blocker, I dont mind 1 or so or that it gets knocked down, but that shit is for the birds..
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Old 2005-09-11, 08:51 PM   #10
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if I was a bookmarker on a LL and spent money on memberships and I was looking at the free sites and got put through a pop-up loop and had this thing and that thing going on all over my monitor I would not be back, free site submitters should check the tour for stuff like that..
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Old 2005-09-12, 02:38 AM   #11
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I'm also beginning to pick Console Free Tours for all the things I'm building since some sponsors are crazy when it comes to pop-ups - I think an exit pop-up is ok but when the surfer gets slammed with multiple pop-ups on entrance it's just wrong. You seem to both cheat the surfer and WM with that :/
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Old 2005-09-12, 12:33 PM   #12
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well the way I been doing it is.. like some sponsors I use has a small exit console that my pop-up blocker knocks down so then I use it, but some others that get by are just excessive IMHO, no need to piss off ones traffic that you have the site listed on, plus surfers bookmark your free sites and one trip through the ringer and there not gonna save it,

I get some sales through bookmarked sites, some surfers may hit the tour many times before they buy or they might have a membership already active and they like your content and sponsor and want to wait till there other membership runs out.. now they can find your free site they have saved and join then.... but when submitters use some console codes that are plain brutal, it pisses off the LL traffic and ruins a chance of sales down the road...

Also I am not out to ban people most in this thread are very good submitters and fellow LL owners, I just want to do whats best for my traffic...
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Old 2005-09-12, 04:25 PM   #13
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I start to think, it's time to use console free links for my free sites, but it's too hard to lose 5 bucks on every sale
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Old 2005-09-12, 04:50 PM   #14
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gilbert - Yep you can lose 5 bucks on every sale, or you can lose out on 50 sales. Do the math!
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Old 2005-09-12, 06:36 PM   #15
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Ok, starting from tomorrow I will use console free links at my free sites
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Old 2005-09-12, 06:57 PM   #16
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I start to think, it's time to use console free links for my free sites, but it's too hard to lose 5 bucks on every sale
Don't think of it that way. Think of it this way.

More listings
No traffic leaks to the console the sponsor pops up. (Yes you lose sales to those)
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Old 2005-09-12, 07:11 PM   #17
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LL buisnes is in stable condition. I mean there are no more and more submitters day by day. Amount of submitters is constant. Yes sponsor's content pretty overused, but sponsors keep shooting new content...So i can't see a reason why free conent will be a lot overused tomorrow like today...
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I think you're missing the point.
I hate sponsor content period, always have, always will.
I will not list sponsor site A more than a few times on any update. (I'm still sick to death of Lesbian submits)
For 20 bucks you can buy a descent set of pics from numerous providers. (check out GG's resources)
You should get listed at more places than with sponsor content alone. (which, if you can build a descent free site/tgp page, will pay for itself in hours).

Oh, and Platinum Bucks does have No Console tours, just to clear them. It's your business. I just decide if I'll link you.
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