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[Useless]

Originally Posted by ecchi

RE: "I think you've lost your mind." That is a much held opinion of me. However I cannot see how the piece you quote adds fuel to the general suspicion of my sanity. Just because you do not talk to your non-webmaster friends about your business, it does not mean other webmasters also keep stumm about their business or hobby.

(I wish you'd learn to use the quote button ) The only thing anyone wants to talk about with me is this damned business, but I never suggest anyone's sites and I don't recall anyone ever asking where they should surf.

[ecchi]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

(I wish you'd learn to use the quote button )

I know how to use it, but a long time ago I got fed up of people who use it to quote an entire post instead of just the point they are commenting on, and stopped reading anything it a quote box. In case anyone else is doing the same, I stopped using the quote button myself.

Also I think using the quote button rather than the old fashioned method look a bit nerdy (sort of "Look at me, I am using all the gadgets" kind of thing). But I guess I am just showing my age.

[RobUK]

Originally Posted by ecchi

But I guess I am just showing my age.

If you're old enough to remember Katy Manning / Jo Grant first time around (that IS her in your avatar isn't it? I recognise the Dalek, anyway.. ) then you're probably 40ish, maybe a little more.

With respect to your points about LLs gaining a bad rep from surfers, I'm sure such things happen, but I doubt it would have that much impact upon the list itself. Besides, there are enough porn surfers around for it not to really matter unless it becomes a BIG problem.

On the other hand, I don't agree with stu that "honest" webmasters will neccessarily bother to find out why (or if) they've been blacklisted by smaller LLs either. As I said earlier, at least some lists have a LONG review time, on the order of several months, and others may just have not liked what was submitted etc. By the time it's become apparent that your submissions are never going to appear, it's a dead issue IMHO.

As a newbie at this submitting thing, I'm always looking out for new lists to submit to, and for ones that for whatever reason don't work for me. I'm gradually building up a picture of reliable and unreliable (from my perspective) lists - if I were to be blacklisted and not told about it, I might well raise the point with a list that I'd previously thought to be reliable, but for others I'd probably just add them to the unreliable list and forget them until someone asked me for a list of reliable / unreliable LLs.

As UW says, there's very little point in trying to change the culture of a business; I always try to follow the rules out of respect for the LL owner's wishes, but if they were to blacklist me for an error rather than deliberate intent, well, that's up to them.

Rob.