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Old 2005-10-09, 01:11 AM   #1
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Boss - nahh - what they are saying is that the recips to LLs you have on your warning page can only have 2 links on each recip - some LLs have come up with recips lately that a huge amount of different link urls embedded in them.
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Old 2005-10-09, 01:26 AM   #2
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would like some clarification please.

Are you refering to outgoing URLS on the recips being more than 2 different destinations or in total (doesnt matter where its going just 2 urls)?
Cuz my table does have 5 outgoing links but that is because it is a table with 5 sections but the outgoing links are to only 2 destinations (index & 1 category page)

The 2 samples you showed had 10 & 4 outgoing links but to all different destinations.. I feel mine is not the same case.

If so then when I am reviewing I will count the number of times I see a sponsor link on any given ad (some have 3-4 for one ad) but is counted only as one outgoing link cuz its all one ad apparantly - will have to start to decline those.

If there is a major complaint because i changed my recips I will have to close submissions again till I redo 75 recip tables which took me quite some time to do since I am so html illiterate.

So would the representative of Penisbot (Kit right?) please clarify their stand on this issue.
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Old 2005-10-09, 06:13 AM   #3
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would like some clarification please.

Are you refering to outgoing URLS on the recips being more than 2 different destinations or in total (doesnt matter where its going just 2 urls)?
Cuz my table does have 5 outgoing links but that is because it is a table with 5 sections but the outgoing links are to only 2 destinations (index & 1 category page)

The 2 samples you showed had 10 & 4 outgoing links but to all different destinations.. I feel mine is not the same case.

If so then when I am reviewing I will count the number of times I see a sponsor link on any given ad (some have 3-4 for one ad) but is counted only as one outgoing link cuz its all one ad apparantly - will have to start to decline those.

If there is a major complaint because i changed my recips I will have to close submissions again till I redo 75 recip tables which took me quite some time to do since I am so html illiterate.

So would the representative of Penisbot (Kit right?) please clarify their stand on this issue.
This is exactly what I would like to know... Is it fine if a recip has more than 2 links linking to max 2 pages.
As for now I'm adding sites with your recip to penisbot - I hope they will be accepted...
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Old 2005-10-09, 10:14 AM   #4
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would like some clarification please.

Are you refering to outgoing URLS on the recips being more than 2 different destinations or in total (doesnt matter where its going just 2 urls)?
Cuz my table does have 5 outgoing links but that is because it is a table with 5 sections but the outgoing links are to only 2 destinations (index & 1 category page)

The 2 samples you showed had 10 & 4 outgoing links but to all different destinations.. I feel mine is not the same case.

If so then when I am reviewing I will count the number of times I see a sponsor link on any given ad (some have 3-4 for one ad) but is counted only as one outgoing link cuz its all one ad apparantly - will have to start to decline those.

If there is a major complaint because i changed my recips I will have to close submissions again till I redo 75 recip tables which took me quite some time to do since I am so html illiterate.

So would the representative of Penisbot (Kit right?) please clarify their stand on this issue.
Hello Emerland. I mean 2 links in total. I can surely tell you, Google don't give you more PR if you will put 5 repeating links leading to couple different pages.

BTW, Why you can't code your reciprocal using two links only?
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Old 2005-10-09, 10:17 AM   #5
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PS. I can easily modify my links for getting 10-15-20 links back from each submission, but I don't want turn good old free sites to the linkfarms having zero value for Google.

The day when link site owners will order webmasters use new linkfarms will be end of LLs. Do you want it?
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Old 2005-10-09, 10:42 AM   #6
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On the recip table that I have PB & WP there are 2 LLs that have 3 outgoing links on the recips - rather than changing my tables around, would these particular LL owners have a problem if I unlinked one if they go to the same page?

also, it would be beneficial to all if we knew which LL owners are going to put this rule in place so us subbers can change things accordingly. I submit to over 100 LLs right now, and to be honest, unless it's outrageous I really don't count if they have 2 or 3 outgoing links. 3 seems to be pretty common.

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btw - I use the LLs recips, not my own text ones.
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Old 2005-10-09, 11:00 AM   #7
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Now I'm totally confused I really don't understand all these posts. So I have to know who runs all the LL's so I don't put them all on one page?

I'm finding it hard enough just to get everyone listed with who they want to be with. I understand the big guys wanting to be listed together, don't have a problem with that at all. But my recipt table is up to 21 now just to keep them all together. Then I have the people you are nice enough to give me partner accounts, they should be listed on a good page also. And of course the smaller link lists who are nice enough to list my sites all the time..it's confusing to me how to please everyone, and give credit to the ones I feel deserve it.

Am I making any sense here? I sure hope so...
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Old 2005-10-11, 03:45 AM   #8
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Whoa!

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Now I'm totally confused I really don't understand all these posts. So I have to know who runs all the LL's so I don't put them all on one page?

I'm finding it hard enough just to get everyone listed with who they want to be with. I understand the big guys wanting to be listed together, don't have a problem with that at all. But my recipt table is up to 21 now just to keep them all together. Then I have the people you are nice enough to give me partner accounts, they should be listed on a good page also. And of course the smaller link lists who are nice enough to list my sites all the time..it's confusing to me how to please everyone, and give credit to the ones I feel deserve it.
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No one said it was going to be easy or even make sense. But, everything you said is probably felt and shared by all the subbers. I certainly agree with you and swore and shook my head when I read this thread.

BUT, the caution displayed over this issue is absolutely correct even if it is a pain. Better to deal with an issue proactively as one never knows when google will lower the boom as they try to become ever more refined in their results.

It is kind of out there for any LL to have more than two links, one to main, one to category. More is just abusing the equation.

Finally, one more reason to build an LL so you can at least have a break once in awhile and be king for a day. IMHO
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Old 2005-10-09, 11:08 AM   #9
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This really is getting out of hand and confusing |confused| |confused| for the subers. The LL's are going to have to start telling us who they won't accept on recips with them.

You guys opened this can of worms you need to figure it out. The referance thread http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum30/30575.htm that started this thread 2 days was locked on 16 Aug and nothing since that I could find.

I think this is some kind of a kneejerk reaction and somebody needs to get a grip on reality. I looked at a lot of the major LL's PR today and didn't see any problem, but I'm just the new guy. Just need to know the rules.
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Old 2005-10-09, 11:24 AM   #10
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Hello Emerland. I mean 2 links in total. I can surely tell you, Google don't give you more PR if you will put 5 repeating links leading to couple different pages.

BTW, Why you can't code your reciprocal using two links only?

The recip table was never made to make google happy or otherwise

Can you code 5 boxes on a table recip to be one link? Id be happy to do just that if I could figure out how.
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Old 2005-10-09, 11:51 AM   #11
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now darn I just read on this thread and noticed I subbed a site with emeralds recip and to penis bot, dont know what to do now..

So is kit saying he wont list any free sites with smut grimlens recip on that free site ?? since there's 5 out going links to her site..

also I been thinking a good while of going to nich recips for my LL..
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Old 2005-10-09, 12:36 PM   #12
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now darn I just read on this thread and noticed I subbed a site with emeralds recip and to penis bot, dont know what to do now..

So is kit saying he wont list any free sites with smut grimlens recip on that free site ?? since there's 5 out going links to her site..

also I been thinking a good while of going to nich recips for my LL..
Same here..I also submited to pernus bot with smut gremlins recip
but is smut gremlins one of the recomended sites on PENISBOT it says something like we suggest you submit the following LLs and smutgremlins is there? THis is tricky man

Wonder what should I do...the site is still pending..should i Just downsize smutgremlins recip?
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Old 2005-10-09, 01:15 PM   #13
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Same here..I also submited to pernus bot with smut gremlins recip
but is smut gremlins one of the recomended sites on PENISBOT it says something like we suggest you submit the following LLs and smutgremlins is there? THis is tricky man

Wonder what should I do...the site is still pending..should i Just downsize smutgremlins recip?
I think I read in her rules no sites will be listed without the new recips...
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Old 2005-10-09, 11:53 AM   #14
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Can you code 5 boxes on a table recip to be one link? Id be happy to do just that if I could figure out how.
It's impossible

But it's always possible to find alternative way to do something

P.S.: Adult List also agreed with this rule. It's also good linklist.
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Old 2005-10-09, 02:07 PM   #15
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The recip table was never made to make google happy or otherwise

Can you code 5 boxes on a table recip to be one link? Id be happy to do just that if I could figure out how.
Hi Emerald! Happy Thanksgiving.

I respect and admire you so much, I always had fun every time I was with you too, esp. talking about online gaming, lol.

Could you allow those that want to do the 2 links rule to modify your links, esp. in custom tables, so they make the linklists happy like PenisBot, and let the others use your custom recips? Would save you having to redo all of them again.

Something like this:

<a href="http://www.smutgremlins.com">Smut Gremlins Free Porn</a>
<a href="http://www.smutgremlins.com/porn_for_women.html">For Women</>

Which is what I'd do on a for women site, and put something to that effect in your rules, so people have the choice?

I admit personally, I custom do all my recips now, even for my own sites, because I think it makes the boxes look neater.
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Old 2005-10-09, 03:22 PM   #16
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In light of all the hallaboo regarding the recips I have decided to alter mine once again..

Ponygirl offered to recode them all for me (Bless her heart) and hopefully Kit will let a few slide since this rule came into effect almost the same time I redid my whole site - including the recips - perhaps give the subbers a weeks grace period?

In the meantime as RedCherry suggested - go ahead and alter them to 2 links - one being the category linked to the correct cat and the other linked to my index.

It would be a shame if subbers had to choose between one or the other link list because of this new rule (never even occured to me it was a SE spam) I dont pay attention to SE since it would occupy all my time just to keep up with all the changes.

Im really sorry this has caused some submitters extra work .. was never my intention to make my recips be a problem.. I just wanted a "new" look from the old recips - its 5 boxes in the table, which made me have 5 links

I still maintain the stand that it is only 2 links since there is only 2 destinations.

Free site builders often have 3-4 links on one ad and we dont count that as 3 outgoing links! - would hate to see that come up as a new rule.

New recips will be posted soon .. and again thank you Ponygirl for offering to recode them for me

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Old 2005-10-09, 03:33 PM   #17
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emerald can I just use two text links till you get them changed ? I got a headach looking at the code
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