what's wrong with this site?

[MrYum]

Originally Posted by Talleyrand

Hi Emerald

Please, would you give me a list of 20+ URLs of free sites maked by you?
It will be very important for me, because I will learn from your own free sites.
Thank you in advance.



Talleyrand

Oh yea...that'll happen...not! Talley, you'll find that very few if any link site owners will post their own free sites...lots of reasons...but it's just not something we do.

As to your question about the name servers EvGenius...I won't go into too many details, other than to say that I'm not able to track down a website for your host via your name servers. I end up at a dead end with a host website name that's expired and up for sale. Unfortunately, due to all the cheaters/scammers out there...site reviewers need to verify whois info...including hosting...to make sure we're dealing with a legit webmaster on the other end of the submission.

[Talleyrand]

Originally Posted by MrYum

Oh yea...that'll happen...not! Talley, you'll find that very few if any link site owners will post their own free sites...lots of reasons...but it's just not something we do.

Hi MrYum

May be I did not understand very well.
Had you told me that the ll owners do not make and submit his/her own freesites?
Would you tell me the motives? Wich is the sense or logic of this behaviour? TIA



Talleyrand

[MrYum]

Hi Talley...

Yep, you did perhaps mis-understand a bit.

Many link list owners do in fact still build/submit free sites...actually, a lot of us started out in the biz that way. As to myself, I just don't have the time to do free sites these days...though I'll probably add them back into the mix once I get a couple current projects launched. Got a couple biguns on the stove at the moment

What I was referring to is it's highly doubtful that a ll owner is going to send you or publicly post 20+ free sites for your review.

The best way for you to gain knowledge is to cruise the link lists that interest you...look at the sites they're listing. You can learn a ton by doing that excercise...everything from what it takes to get listed...to what it takes to sell. However, one very important caveat...NEVER ever copy someone's work. ..use it for inspiration only. Copying someone's work is one of the best ways to be labeled a cheater permanently. Not saying you would do such a thing, just want to make very sure there's no mis-communication on that point

[Talleyrand]

Originally Posted by MrYum

Hi Talley...
What I was referring to is it's highly doubtful that a ll owner is going to send you or publicly post 20+ free sites for your review.

Hi MrYum

Have ll owners afraid of that webmasters will review his/her free sites? Why they are hiding his/her free sites?
His/her behaviour takes away his/her credibility.

Please, before that some ll owner will reply to me with bad manners, I will thanks that he/she post the list of their own free sites for that webmasters will review it with the ll owner rules in our hand.



Talleyrand

[Surfn]

I'm definitely afraid of some low life scum copying my work to make a quick buck. Not even in this season could I be that charitable for no good reason.


Want to see what it takes to get listed follow the advice above or get a job flipping burgers.

[Talleyrand]

Good answer. (I am thinking that other will copy it)



Talleyrand

Originally Posted by Surfn

I'm definitely afraid of some low life scum copying my work to make a quick buck. Not even in this season could I be that charitable for no good reason.

[MrYum]

Originally Posted by Talleyrand

Hi MrYum

Have ll owners afraid of that webmasters will review his/her free sites? Why they are hiding his/her free sites?
His/her behaviour takes away his/her credibility.

Please, before that some ll owner will reply to me with bad manners, I will thanks that he/she post the list of their own free sites for that webmasters will review it with the ll owner rules in our hand.



Talleyrand

Yanno Talley...I've tried very hard the past few days to be nice to you...as I thought perhaps I'd been too hasty previously. However, I see that my previous impression of you was in fact correct. You really are a pain in the ass that has no idea when to take no for an answer. If that's not nice enough for you...or you think it's bad manners...well that's just too bad.

There is good news however...I won't be mean to you anymore...as I quite simply will no longer even attempt to help you. Good luck Talley...you're going to need it as there is one thing you are very good at...burning bridges

[Talleyrand]

Thanks MrYum

I have nothing against you. If you are angry with me for my honest questions...

BUT you did not answer why you are hiding your own free sites. Your behaviour takes away your credibility.

Are you waiting admiration while you are hiding your sites?
Is it an excellent example for the newbies? |confused|

May be the hiden rule that nobody say is: "You must to do what I say but not what I do".



Talleyrand

Originally Posted by MrYum

Yanno Talley...I've tried very hard the past few days to be nice to you...as I thought perhaps I'd been too hasty previously. However, I see that my previous impression of you was in fact correct. You really are a pain in the ass that has no idea when to take no for an answer. If that's not nice enough for you...or you think it's bad manners...well that's just too bad.

There is good news however...I won't be mean to you anymore...as I quite simply will no longer even attempt to help you. Good luck Talley...you're going to need it as there is one thing you are very good at...burning bridges

[MrYum]

Originally Posted by Talleyrand

Thanks MrYum

I have nothing against you. If you are angry with me for my honest questions...

BUT you did not answer why you are hiding your own free sites. Your behaviour takes away your credibility.

Are you waiting admiration while you are hiding your sites?
Is it an excellent example for the newbies? |confused|

May be the hiden rule that nobody say is: "You must to do what I say but not what I do".



Talleyrand

Talley...nope, not angry with you for asking questions...not at all...this board is all about asking questions. However, I am sick and tired of you not taking the answers given when they aren't what you desire.

My sites are not hidden at all...anyone with any amount of knowledge and intelligence could easily surf around and find my sites if they wanted to take the time to do so. However, I'm certainly not going to post them here or send urls to a pain in the ass who refuses to listen when folks try to help him.

As to my credibility and the example I set, I'll leave that to the consensus of the other respected members of these forums. Suffice it to say, I certainly couldn't give a rats ass what you think of me

See, you're still stuck in that mentality of someone owing you listings. That you're somehow entitled to have your sites listed where ever you choose to submit them. That quite simply is not the case, each of the link sites is owned by someone who works their ass off to maintain and grow that site. They are absolutely free to list or not list any site submitted...whether it complies with the rules or not.

Case in point, I've made no bones about it publicly that I will sometimes accept sites from trusted submitters that bend my rules slightly (providing the've spoken to me about it in advance). Establishing trust and making friends goes a very long way in this business Talley...and that is a bridge you're burning at a rapid rate.

Myself and others have wasted far too much time trying to get through your thick skull...apparently to no avail. A couple days ago, I thought you might finally be coming around...so I decided to jump in yet again...be nice to you...try to help you. But nope, you've gone right back to asking for things that simply are not going to be given...period.

Welcome to the real world Talley...deal with it...or don't. Either way...makes zero difference to me...

[Mateusz]

Originally Posted by Talleyrand

BUT you did not answer why you are hiding your own free sites. Your behaviour takes away your credibility.

I'm afaraid you are the only one in this thread who suffers from lack of credibility.
If any of us wants to create site breaking reules its our own buisness - you better mind yours.

Originally Posted by Talleyrand

BUT I think that I have all the right to make questions [..]

NO NO NO... its yours biggest mistake - it's not a right its a privilage.
You got right to build shitty sites but everyone got a right not to list them. You've got enough clues to get listed (IMO way too many when I see your replies and comments) - take advantage of them and stop making enemies before its too late.