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Old 2006-02-02, 11:47 AM   #1
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With that kind of thinking we may see your name in the possible cheaters forum...
I don't see how I am cheating with this view, personally I speak with sponsors idearlly on the phone before I promote them and explain what I need.

My request tends to be the same content in 20's unmarked. I show them sites I have made and explain clearly what I will be doing and promoting.

Its basic business Surfn, right now I am trying to see what you see is cheating |confused|
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I don't see how I am cheating with this view, personally I speak with sponsors idearlly on the phone before I promote them and explain what I need.

My request tends to be the same content in 20's unmarked. I show them sites I have made and explain clearly what I will be doing and promoting.

Its basic business Surfn, right now I am trying to see what you see is cheating |confused|
Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups.


The typical affiliate program assumes that the typical webmaster has some modicum of common sense. Something I find difficult to assign these days.


It's probably not in the TOS of any of your sponsor programs that you are allowed to walk into crowded mall with a gun and force several hundred people to use their CC to sign up either. Common sense should dictate this.

The right way to do it is contact someone at the sponsor and get an answer before proceeding.

Again Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups.
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Old 2006-02-02, 12:17 PM   #3
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I don't see how I am cheating with this view
A photo is automatically the copyright of the photographer unless they have sold that right on (eg to your sponsor). Whoever has copyright has final say in what can and cannot be done to it. If they say "you can use this photo to advertise our site" then you can do that, and only that. The way the law runs is that altering it and publishing it (even on a website) is assumed banned unless the copyright holder gives you permission to do so. In other words, if he don't say you can, he means you cannot, and the law is on his side if he catches you.

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Lets face any content the webmasters use is just one level down from the public domain.
Do you like your house? Your car? Your stereo, TV, DVD? And everything else you own? I hope not, because if you practise this theory and you are caught, you are going to have to sell the lot to cover court costs and what you will owe the copyright owner.

However I cannot understand why sponsors do not allow this. As I said in a previous post, I allow affiliates to watermark my content with my site's URL and their affiliate code. When I mentioned this point in my sig on another board, with a link to my affiliate program I got a hell of a lot of sign ups (several times what I got doing the same thing but promising high profits)
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Old 2006-02-02, 12:33 PM   #4
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A photo is automatically the copyright of the photographer unless they have sold that right on (eg to your sponsor). Whoever has copyright has final say in what can and cannot be done to it. If they say "you can use this photo to advertise our site" then you can do that, and only that. The way the law runs is that altering it and publishing it (even on a website) is assumed banned unless the copyright holder gives you permission to do so. In other words, if he don't say you can, he means you cannot, and the law is on his side if he catches you.

Do you like your house? Your car? Your stereo, TV, DVD? And everything else you own? I hope not, because if you practise this theory and you are caught, you are going to have to sell the lot to cover court costs and what you will owe the copyright owner.

However I cannot understand why sponsors do not allow this. As I said in a previous post, I allow affiliates to watermark my content with my site's URL and their affiliate code. When I mentioned this point in my sig on another board, with a link to my affiliate program I got a hell of a lot of sign ups (several times what I got doing the same thing but promising high profits)
The first quote reads really bad - I have expressed a view - by expressing a view I was being told I was could be branded as a possible cheat - let me stress this is my view.

Now what you are saying in your second para here is pretty much why I talk to sponsors before I begin work on anything. You do the right thing letting people stamp the images. People joined because they could make galleries for you and not loose out on the type ins, flexibility in a sponsor is all good
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