What are +4 million pageviews worth these days?

Simon · 2006-02-09, 08:19 AM

GonZo - I'll shoot you a pm in a minute, but you hit on one of the reasons we're considering letting these two sites go. Both sites have only static html story pages, thousands of them, with mostly hard-coded banners or served via ancient Javascripts. Trying to get someone's advertising onto those pages is not an easy task the way things are set up today. The sites would be a good opportunity for someone who wanted to remake them into what the future of story sites should look like. I have too many other things going on these days to think I'll have time to get these rebuilt how I'd like them, and it takes too much time to update them the way they are now.

Fonz - I'm pretty sure Google has a lot of returning traffic too.

I'd be willing to say that this traffic in not more valuable than Google traffic, but I wouldn't concede that it's only worth one-fifth of what their traffic is worth. Sex story surfers are pretty good traffic, as those here who have story sites will know.

Bell · 2006-02-10, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Simon

GonZo - I'll shoot you a pm in a minute, but you hit on one of the reasons we're considering letting these two sites go. Both sites have only static html story pages, thousands of them, with mostly hard-coded banners or served via ancient Javascripts. Trying to get someone's advertising onto those pages is not an easy task the way things are set up today. The sites would be a good opportunity for someone who wanted to remake them into what the future of story sites should look like. I have too many other things going on these days to think I'll have time to get these rebuilt how I'd like them, and it takes too much time to update them the way they are now.

Fonz - I'm pretty sure Google has a lot of returning traffic too.

I'd be willing to say that this traffic in not more valuable than Google traffic, but I wouldn't concede that it's only worth one-fifth of what their traffic is worth. Sex story surfers are pretty good traffic, as those here who have story sites will know.

universally (via script) pull each page of the site into a frame where you have SOLD (leased) the frames ad space for revenue...

contact the appraisal dept. over at sedo.com for an evaluation (appraisal) ...

consider parking it on sedo.com for a few hours to get revenue generation stat proof - to show a potential bidder at sedo.com

turn the site into a text feed and lease that to others...
that would be a revenue source that should be provable...

just a few thoughts...

Good Luck with your project...

~Bell

Simon · 2006-02-10, 12:01 PM

Wazza - LMAO at Higherthiamin... I think I take 500mg a day of those.

Glad to hear the sorting got done.

You pointed out that using Google Adwords as a guide isn't the best way to go. I agree, and that wasn't my comparison, I was just replying to something Fonz had said. If I was going to use clicks for comparison, I think we'd have to have a way to track the outgoing clicks from the two sites, since I believe that's more of what we'd be talking about if we did want to use SE traffic as a comparison.

And I agree, a developed website is definitely worth something to us.

...and...

Bell - Thanks for the suggestions and the good wishes.

As you mentioned, we'd thought about using some easy ways to frame or insert the page content. I have two things holding me back on that. One is that we already have server inserted header and footer bars with links to our other sites on many pages, and we have buttons, banners and other promotional links on most pages too. So adding more advertising isn't really what I'd want to achieve. These two sites really need to be rebuilt in order to manage the advertising better.

Oh yes, the second thing holding me back is that I don't want to do anything to damage the traffic growth. In particular, I'm not sure how SEs would react to all of the content suddenly being in frames, or otherwise repackaged.

And actually, I guess there's a third thing. I'm not really trying to generate more revenue from some of our older sites. Mostly because I know what it would take to do that and I don't want to add more work to my already over-full schedule. I want to clear more time for other things.

Sedo.com is something I hadn't really thought about, probably because I thought they did mostly domain sales. I've never bought or sold domains through them, and don't know much about their experience in selling domains that already have traffic. I can look into that, but I'd appreciate feedback from anyone who can add some input on this.

And thanks to everyone for the feedback so far.

Simon

P.S. For what it's worth, I looked over some stats last night and I was a little low on the visitors number. The 750k visitors was in November. December was 840k and January was 890k. Average over the last nine months was 825k/month. Pageviews were an average of 4 million/month, with 4.3 million in December and 4.5 million in January.

2006-02-09, 08:19 AM	#1
Simon That which does not kill us, will try, try again. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Conch Republic Posts: 5,150	GonZo - I'll shoot you a pm in a minute, but you hit on one of the reasons we're considering letting these two sites go. Both sites have only static html story pages, thousands of them, with mostly hard-coded banners or served via ancient Javascripts. Trying to get someone's advertising onto those pages is not an easy task the way things are set up today. The sites would be a good opportunity for someone who wanted to remake them into what the future of story sites should look like. I have too many other things going on these days to think I'll have time to get these rebuilt how I'd like them, and it takes too much time to update them the way they are now. Fonz - I'm pretty sure Google has a lot of returning traffic too. I'd be willing to say that this traffic in not more valuable than Google traffic, but I wouldn't concede that it's only worth one-fifth of what their traffic is worth. Sex story surfers are pretty good traffic, as those here who have story sites will know. __________________ "If you're happy and you know it, think again." -- Guru Pitka

2006-02-10, 12:01 PM	#3
Simon That which does not kill us, will try, try again. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Conch Republic Posts: 5,150	Wazza - LMAO at Higherthiamin... I think I take 500mg a day of those. Glad to hear the sorting got done. You pointed out that using Google Adwords as a guide isn't the best way to go. I agree, and that wasn't my comparison, I was just replying to something Fonz had said. If I was going to use clicks for comparison, I think we'd have to have a way to track the outgoing clicks from the two sites, since I believe that's more of what we'd be talking about if we did want to use SE traffic as a comparison. And I agree, a developed website is definitely worth something to us. ...and... Bell - Thanks for the suggestions and the good wishes. As you mentioned, we'd thought about using some easy ways to frame or insert the page content. I have two things holding me back on that. One is that we already have server inserted header and footer bars with links to our other sites on many pages, and we have buttons, banners and other promotional links on most pages too. So adding more advertising isn't really what I'd want to achieve. These two sites really need to be rebuilt in order to manage the advertising better. Oh yes, the second thing holding me back is that I don't want to do anything to damage the traffic growth. In particular, I'm not sure how SEs would react to all of the content suddenly being in frames, or otherwise repackaged. And actually, I guess there's a third thing. I'm not really trying to generate more revenue from some of our older sites. Mostly because I know what it would take to do that and I don't want to add more work to my already over-full schedule. I want to clear more time for other things. Sedo.com is something I hadn't really thought about, probably because I thought they did mostly domain sales. I've never bought or sold domains through them, and don't know much about their experience in selling domains that already have traffic. I can look into that, but I'd appreciate feedback from anyone who can add some input on this. And thanks to everyone for the feedback so far. Simon P.S. For what it's worth, I looked over some stats last night and I was a little low on the visitors number. The 750k visitors was in November. December was 840k and January was 890k. Average over the last nine months was 825k/month. Pageviews were an average of 4 million/month, with 4.3 million in December and 4.5 million in January. __________________ "If you're happy and you know it, think again." -- Guru Pitka