How long before I can take off recips to LL's?

tigermom · 2006-02-19, 01:08 PM

I realize that if I got accepted, I need to leave them there forever lol, that much is clear.

But, with most of the LL's not even bothering to send back an email telling you one way or another if you got in, when do you think I should go checking to see if my site got listed, and if it's not there assume it got rejected and lose the recip?

Surfn · 2006-02-19, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tigermom

I realize that if I got accepted, I need to leave them there forever lol, that much is clear.

But, with most of the LL's not even bothering to send back an email telling you one way or another if you got in, when do you think I should go checking to see if my site got listed, and if it's not there assume it got rejected and lose the recip?

My philosophy has always been build and forget. I guess that's why I never got banned.

tigermom · 2006-02-19, 01:27 PM

It's a good philosophy, and def easy to apply

then again, there's also the thing about not leaking out PR to someone who never accepts your sites and doesn't even bother to tell you as much.

ponygirl · 2006-02-19, 01:47 PM

well, I got an acceptance email the other day from a site I subbed last July LOL - there are a few LLs that are really that much behind. To me, it's always a treat to get an email about a 7 month old site, and the traffic is great, so I don't care

I think Surfn is right - forget it, leave it be & if necessary, remove them from future submissions. The little bit of traffic/pr leak or whatever doesn't make that much difference in the grand scheme IMO.

Ponygirl

gilbert · 2006-02-19, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Surfn

My philosophy has always been build and forget.

Totally agree.

Surfn · 2006-02-19, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tigermom

It's a good philosophy, and def easy to apply

then again, there's also the thing about not leaking out PR to someone who never accepts your sites and doesn't even bother to tell you as much.

You are talking about one of two hits a month. Is it worth losing a listing over that? My bot pulls any site that changes the recips.

Ramster · 2006-02-19, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tigermom

It's a good philosophy, and def easy to apply

then again, there's also the thing about not leaking out PR to someone who never accepts your sites and doesn't even bother to tell you as much.

Check your stats and if someone is not accepting your sites then stop submitting to them. That seems simple enough.

swedguy · 2006-02-19, 03:48 PM

It will take you the same time to check if 1 site got accepted at all the places you submited to as to create a whole new site. Don't forget that some places might change the category it got listed in, so if you delete the recip and it got listed in a different category than you submitted and checked if it was listed in, you might end up getting yourself banned.

As Surfn said, build and forget.

Surfn · 2006-02-19, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tigermom

It's a good philosophy, and def easy to apply

then again, there's also the thing about not leaking out PR to someone who never accepts your sites and doesn't even bother to tell you as much.

That's why you have to pay attention. If you notice you are NOT being listed somewhere take them off your submit list

MeatPounder · 2006-02-19, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Surfn

That's why you have to pay attention. If you notice you are NOT being listed somewhere take them off your submit list

Exactly!

I have sites and galleries out there still from several years ago I occasionally take a look at the stats for. (Usually when a surprise from the past occurs when an oldie makes a new sale

)

Some TGP's and Link Lists have never ever sent me a hit, hell some of the recips I have up there on old pages point to places no longer online.

If it's up there, leave it alone, and just in the future take sites that never give you traffic off any future submit list.

Surfn · 2006-02-19, 05:49 PM

Something that can get you banned at my list is removing someone else's recip that I already approved and listed and changing it with someone I don't link to. I'll send one email warning on this then if no action is taken in 72 hours or another submit comes in with that recip on it you are BANNED. Have nice day

ronnie · 2006-02-19, 07:11 PM

I agree it can take time to get listed on some places. I submitted some blogs a month or two ago, just now getting accepted e-mails from some places.

Would'nt hurt to try asking the sites that dont list, or you think dont list you, might even build a relationship. And if your checking the e-mail you use for submits. Seems so many just go into a black hole, like most dont even get them. Not saying that is the case here.

ronnie

Mr. Blue · 2006-02-19, 07:51 PM

Just remove them from your submit list...it's too time consuming to go back and change pages based on who accepted you and who didn't.

MrYum · 2006-02-19, 11:27 PM

Yep, I'm still getting acceptance mails on a few sites submitted over 6 months ago...some lists are very far behind on reviews.

Also agree...build and forget is definitely the most productive use of your time.

juggernaut · 2006-02-20, 10:13 AM

Agree with everyone here. In fact I put up a post about this maybe a few months back. To much work to check, to much work to fill in the missing recip and then sub to another site. FS are supposed to be built fast, simple and clean. Like Big Ron says, "set it and forget it"

tigermom · 2006-02-20, 11:23 AM

Well, I guess I will put my time into more important things.

I am doing this whole FS thing as a test really... so far made 5 sites, submitted and got accepted pretty much everywhere that has checked them. Some traffic coming in and not a single sale yet. lol looks like I might be going back to blogging soon enough

Halfdeck · 2006-02-20, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by tigermom

Some traffic coming in and not a single sale yet. lol looks like I might be going back to blogging soon enough

I'd recommend at least getting a good hang of free sites (submit at least 30-60) before drawing conclusions

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Originally Posted by tigermom

then again, there's also the thing about not leaking out PR to someone who never accepts your sites

Think of LLs as your Google or Yahoo. Don't think of using the LL listings to boost your SE ranking; to pull SE traffic, blogs or anything else would be a better choice. The advantage of LL traffic is you get it immediately (instead of waiting for a few months) and you can build the traffic at a fast rate by submitting every day.

Mr Exotic · 2006-02-20, 12:20 PM

Hahahaha well I am new to free sites but can tell you for sure its gonna take a lot longer then 5 sites to get somewhere in this. I have been building my ass off the last month on free sites and have made submissions every single day and traffic is just now starting to pick up some. In my month in doing free sites I have made 2 hubs and damn near close to 100 free sites this aint gonna be something that pops up overnight

I started this project not expecting much at all for about 8 months and even at 8 months I look for it just to start making decent money and not even close to where I hope this project leads. Hell even if you were doing tgp galleries you cant expect even that to start working wonders after 5 galleries submitted, and galleries are a hell of a lot faster than free sites, I just think free sites have alot more promise in the long run. I can understand wanting to test free sites out, believe me I have. I have been a webmaster since 99' and have tried out free sites 2 or 3 times previous to this and I know exactly what I did wrong. I gave up way too early. Its one of those things where before where I did free sites a couple weeks or so and then after about 2 weeks or so I thought jesus this is a total waste of time and would give up because I only made a sign up or 2 if that in the first 2 weeks. Then many months pass and I have been noticing that over the couse of the last year or so these free sites I made ended up making some alright money for how much time I put into them. And the free sites I made back then were terrible and hardly got listed at half the places I submitted to.

My cousin (who is also an adult webmaster) did some free sites almost 3 years ago and he did the same thing I did and gave up after a few weeks, but he has a small handful of free sites that are still on his top 100 urls in his stats for his main domain. These free sites are still getting like 4-6k visitors a month and he says a couple of them send at least 1, 2 , and sometimes 3 sales a month. Now the thing you gotta do is think back to the few sites you made and gave up on and how much time it took ya to actually make those sites, then (its hard but you at least can get an idea) figure out about how much money those free sites made. Then its like wow those sites I was just starting out on and gave up after 2 weeks made me over 1000$ after just sitting there for almost 3 years. I just think how much it would be making if I had been making free sites over the last 3 years without missing a beat. For one I know I would have gotten better at them (making more $$$ per site), and I would have a gigantic amount of high quality traffic. I mean 3-4 years later my cousin has a couple sites getting over 4k/month with a mixture of LL's still having his link up and SE traffic. Maybe thats why free sites is one part of this business that doesnt seem like its been ruined by total saturation, because all the people that give up on it after not seeing much after 2 weeks. But if you look at where other parts of the business have gone and where they used to be free sites are the closest you can get to going back to the year 2000.

tigermom · 2006-02-20, 12:38 PM

Thanks for the words of encouragement. I'm thinking maybe I'm putting too much time into each one. I also have blogs, and what I refer to as content sites (not to mention that I have quite a lot that needs attending to in my mainstream sites). Still, point taken, and I will continue with the FS experiment for a bit longer.

Sorry for whining, if it was taken that way. Just having a bit of a rough day today, I guess.

Surfn · 2006-02-20, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tigermom

Thanks for the words of encouragement. I'm thinking maybe I'm putting too much time into each one. I also have blogs, and what I refer to as content sites (not to mention that I have quite a lot that needs attending to in my mainstream sites). Still, point taken, and I will continue with the FS experiment for a bit longer.

Sorry for whining, if it was taken that way. Just having a bit of a rough day today, I guess.

We all have those days that we question if what we are doing is worth it. But then the next day/week/month proves it is

juggernaut · 2006-02-20, 01:08 PM

Well I can't tell you about blogs. But from my experience dealing with FS and submitting for my own paysite. I built a few fs and a couple of gallery pages and have bought traffic.
Gallery pages got me nothing, maybe like 10 visits if I'm lucky. Purchased traffic from choker and pointed to the freesites and got nothing (which freaked me out). All the FS I have submitted to the LL's here have given me sign ups. Now I'm not talking about a ton of sign ups but about 1 sign up for every 30 or so visits. Also keep in mind the sign up at my site is free. But from what I have seen, in the future I will concentrate on mostly FS. 50k worth of traffic from choker got me nothing but visits, not one sign up. FS in my opinon work the best. It has been said someplace that the surfers from FS are better then any other. For me it seems to be true.

2006-02-19, 01:08 PM	#1
tigermom You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 893	How long before I can take off recips to LL's? I realize that if I got accepted, I need to leave them there forever lol, that much is clear. But, with most of the LL's not even bothering to send back an email telling you one way or another if you got in, when do you think I should go checking to see if my site got listed, and if it's not there assume it got rejected and lose the recip? __________________ XLEF

2006-02-19, 01:27 PM	#3
tigermom You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 893	It's a good philosophy, and def easy to apply then again, there's also the thing about not leaking out PR to someone who never accepts your sites and doesn't even bother to tell you as much. __________________ XLEF

2006-02-19, 01:47 PM	#4
ponygirl on vacation Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,095	well, I got an acceptance email the other day from a site I subbed last July LOL - there are a few LLs that are really that much behind. To me, it's always a treat to get an email about a 7 month old site, and the traffic is great, so I don't care I think Surfn is right - forget it, leave it be & if necessary, remove them from future submissions. The little bit of traffic/pr leak or whatever doesn't make that much difference in the grand scheme IMO. Ponygirl __________________ Submit Your Porn I do CSS coding Hosting - JMB Scripts - Tube Site Resources

2006-02-19, 05:49 PM	#11
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	Something that can get you banned at my list is removing someone else's recip that I already approved and listed and changing it with someone I don't link to. I'll send one email warning on this then if no action is taken in 72 hours or another submit comes in with that recip on it you are BANNED. Have nice day __________________ Surfn's Links Are you a partner?

2006-02-19, 07:51 PM	#13
Mr. Blue Searching for Jimmy Hoffa Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 771	Just remove them from your submit list...it's too time consuming to go back and change pages based on who accepted you and who didn't. __________________ 69Blue.com ICQ #223487665

2006-02-19, 03:48 PM	#8
swedguy Vagabond Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,374	It will take you the same time to check if 1 site got accepted at all the places you submited to as to create a whole new site. Don't forget that some places might change the category it got listed in, so if you delete the recip and it got listed in a different category than you submitted and checked if it was listed in, you might end up getting yourself banned. As Surfn said, build and forget.

2006-02-19, 07:11 PM	#12
ronnie Wheither you think you can or you think you can't, Your right. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: midwest Posts: 2,274	I agree it can take time to get listed on some places. I submitted some blogs a month or two ago, just now getting accepted e-mails from some places. Would'nt hurt to try asking the sites that dont list, or you think dont list you, might even build a relationship. And if your checking the e-mail you use for submits. Seems so many just go into a black hole, like most dont even get them. Not saying that is the case here. ronnie

2006-02-19, 11:27 PM	#14
MrYum Arghhhh...submit yer sites ya ruddy swabs! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sunny Florida! Posts: 5,108	Yep, I'm still getting acceptance mails on a few sites submitted over 6 months ago...some lists are very far behind on reviews. Also agree...build and forget is definitely the most productive use of your time. __________________ Porno Flixxx Submissions SOTI Site Submissions Free Porn Resource Submissions

2006-02-20, 10:13 AM	#15
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	Agree with everyone here. In fact I put up a post about this maybe a few months back. To much work to check, to much work to fill in the missing recip and then sub to another site. FS are supposed to be built fast, simple and clean. Like Big Ron says, "set it and forget it"

2006-02-20, 11:23 AM	#16
tigermom You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 893	Well, I guess I will put my time into more important things. I am doing this whole FS thing as a test really... so far made 5 sites, submitted and got accepted pretty much everywhere that has checked them. Some traffic coming in and not a single sale yet. lol looks like I might be going back to blogging soon enough __________________ XLEF

2006-02-20, 12:20 PM	#18
Mr Exotic rifuckingdiculous Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cornfield in Indiana Posts: 532	Hahahaha well I am new to free sites but can tell you for sure its gonna take a lot longer then 5 sites to get somewhere in this. I have been building my ass off the last month on free sites and have made submissions every single day and traffic is just now starting to pick up some. In my month in doing free sites I have made 2 hubs and damn near close to 100 free sites this aint gonna be something that pops up overnight I started this project not expecting much at all for about 8 months and even at 8 months I look for it just to start making decent money and not even close to where I hope this project leads. Hell even if you were doing tgp galleries you cant expect even that to start working wonders after 5 galleries submitted, and galleries are a hell of a lot faster than free sites, I just think free sites have alot more promise in the long run. I can understand wanting to test free sites out, believe me I have. I have been a webmaster since 99' and have tried out free sites 2 or 3 times previous to this and I know exactly what I did wrong. I gave up way too early. Its one of those things where before where I did free sites a couple weeks or so and then after about 2 weeks or so I thought jesus this is a total waste of time and would give up because I only made a sign up or 2 if that in the first 2 weeks. Then many months pass and I have been noticing that over the couse of the last year or so these free sites I made ended up making some alright money for how much time I put into them. And the free sites I made back then were terrible and hardly got listed at half the places I submitted to. My cousin (who is also an adult webmaster) did some free sites almost 3 years ago and he did the same thing I did and gave up after a few weeks, but he has a small handful of free sites that are still on his top 100 urls in his stats for his main domain. These free sites are still getting like 4-6k visitors a month and he says a couple of them send at least 1, 2 , and sometimes 3 sales a month. Now the thing you gotta do is think back to the few sites you made and gave up on and how much time it took ya to actually make those sites, then (its hard but you at least can get an idea) figure out about how much money those free sites made. Then its like wow those sites I was just starting out on and gave up after 2 weeks made me over 1000$ after just sitting there for almost 3 years. I just think how much it would be making if I had been making free sites over the last 3 years without missing a beat. For one I know I would have gotten better at them (making more $$$ per site), and I would have a gigantic amount of high quality traffic. I mean 3-4 years later my cousin has a couple sites getting over 4k/month with a mixture of LL's still having his link up and SE traffic. Maybe thats why free sites is one part of this business that doesnt seem like its been ruined by total saturation, because all the people that give up on it after not seeing much after 2 weeks. But if you look at where other parts of the business have gone and where they used to be free sites are the closest you can get to going back to the year 2000. __________________ Submit Free Sites/Galleries

2006-02-20, 12:38 PM	#19
tigermom You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 893	Thanks for the words of encouragement. I'm thinking maybe I'm putting too much time into each one. I also have blogs, and what I refer to as content sites (not to mention that I have quite a lot that needs attending to in my mainstream sites). Still, point taken, and I will continue with the FS experiment for a bit longer. Sorry for whining, if it was taken that way. Just having a bit of a rough day today, I guess. __________________ XLEF

2006-02-20, 01:08 PM	#21
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	Well I can't tell you about blogs. But from my experience dealing with FS and submitting for my own paysite. I built a few fs and a couple of gallery pages and have bought traffic. Gallery pages got me nothing, maybe like 10 visits if I'm lucky. Purchased traffic from choker and pointed to the freesites and got nothing (which freaked me out). All the FS I have submitted to the LL's here have given me sign ups. Now I'm not talking about a ton of sign ups but about 1 sign up for every 30 or so visits. Also keep in mind the sign up at my site is free. But from what I have seen, in the future I will concentrate on mostly FS. 50k worth of traffic from choker got me nothing but visits, not one sign up. FS in my opinon work the best. It has been said someplace that the surfers from FS are better then any other. For me it seems to be true.