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Old 2006-09-15, 06:12 PM   #1
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I didn't receive their spam, I read it on another board by chance. Somebody might whisper in AVN's ear that they'd get a little more support over here if their board reps made an occasional appearance. There is more to this industry than the eighteen year old 'traffic managers' who live in mom's sewing room and hang out at the zoo.
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B - they know we don't exactly like them a real lot
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Old 2006-09-15, 09:40 PM   #2
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maybe we should arrange our own seminars.. on like traffic, freesites etc.. and just hold them in one of the rooms.. charge 5.00 at the door to get in .. sure would be more worth while than anything i saw last year at Internext .. Ok seeing GG on the dias would be worth the 5.00 .... ok jay arriving late with a Bloody mary in hand might have been worth pay 5.00...ok the months of giggles i've had at the expense of CuriousBoyToy taking a cell call in the middle of the seminar is def. worth the 5.00 but NOT 250.00

We will be there tho again not giving any buckos to AVN.. but Tart and I plan to stay the 15-17 at the Luxor.. the rest of the time will be sent in my already paid for house. Since it's the Bitch's, ChynaBanks and my birthday all on the same day.. i expect a big turn out *glaring*.. for whatever we end up planning..
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Old 2006-09-16, 02:20 PM   #3
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Hello!,
(sorry for a long post but this is an issue I care about)

AVNonline Vegas Show;

Well I have to give them some credit for trying something different as most everyone will agree last year didn't work for anyone.

I think the bigger question is do big adult industry shows still work as a business model giving the changes our industry has gone through since they first started circa 95?

Back then I recall there were only a hand full of Affiliate Programs compared to today where almost anyone can afford MPA or NATs and become a "Program".

I go to a show now and it's all program owners and vendors trying to do exit trades and selling hosting or content to one another. People who run their own Free sites whose business is to build traffic to send to us sponsors seem not to go to these shows anymore. It's like going to a strip club thats full of customers and no strippers. If you're spending thousands of dollars to sponsor the show, send sales people, marketing give aways etc all to get more affiliates to your program you end up like that strip club visitor... sitting around with Blue Balls!

Sure it's nice to talk traffic trades, see old friends meet a few new ones and you'll meet the occassional traffic bearing affiliate but is it really worth spending thousands of dollars for this anymore?

This industry has changed. Affiliate marketing,. with the new saturation of programs and condensation of sources of decent traffic (that's for another post) has become a very costly endeavor.

What do you want from a "show"?
1. See what's new. New technology, new vendors, new ideas, new show booth hotties even.
2. Meet the people with whom you do business all year via icq/email in person and further your business goals.
3.Find new sources of traffic, affiliates, trades, brokers etc ie Make More Money!
4.Get out of the office and party away some of the stress that this business creates.

So is the big Industry Convention the best model for doing this ?
If they could do something to actually get more free site owners, search engine company reps, tgp owners ie traffic sources to the shows then maybe sure. But if its just a business to business "lets throw each other parties" thing.. I don't think so.

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