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twintone · 2006-10-12, 04:48 PM

Washington, DC
September 29, 2006

United States Joins Council of Europe Convention on Cybercrime

Today the United States became a party to the Council of Europe Convention on Cybercrime. The Convention will enter into force for the United States on January 1, 2007.

The Convention is the only legally binding multilateral instrument specifically addressing computer-related crime, helping protect citizens against computer hacking and Internet fraud, as well as crimes involving electronic evidence, including child sexual exploitation (which is 2257), organized crime and terrorism. Parties to the Convention commit to effective and compatible laws and tools to fight cybercrime, and to cooperating to investigate and prosecute these crimes. Ratification of the Convention strengthens the United States’ ongoing leadership in these efforts.

The Council of Europe Convention on Cybercrime is a global approach to the global problem of computer crime. The United States urges all states to consider joining the Convention.

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2006/73353.htm

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chilihost · 2006-10-13, 01:24 PM

twintone,
2257 regulations are specific to the USA. 2257 is VERY different from child porn or copyright regulations. Other countries have cp/copyright laws in place and it is common for countries to cooperate on prosecutions for these laws. But, no other country in the world has the strict regulations and requirements of 2257.

If you are running a mature sex site and your primary point of business is outside of the USA (yet live in the USA), the DOJ cannot legally walk into a NL data center and demand that the server be unplugged for 2257 violations (they have no authority outside of their juristiction), nor can they ask that local NL authorities take action as there is no NL equivalent to these regs (and they can't say its due to child protection as a mature site is pretty obviously not cp).

All I was trying to say is that there are a lot of legit reasons to want offshore hosting. DJilla never mentioned any reason, but you assumed it was to dodge US laws...actually he did not even mention if it was for a US citizen or US corporation.

One other thing, child sexual exploitation is NOT 2257. 2257 is the administrative requirements and documentation regulations that are imposed by the DOJ, in their effort to curbe cp.

And, no, I am not a lawyer and I highly recommend everyone speaks with their local lawyer about any legal concerns. I spoke to one and got a legal opinion for my specific situation.

cheers,
Luke

2006-10-12, 04:48 PM	#1
twintone Heh Heh Heh! Lisa! Vampires are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 77	Washington, DC September 29, 2006 United States Joins Council of Europe Convention on Cybercrime Today the United States became a party to the Council of Europe Convention on Cybercrime. The Convention will enter into force for the United States on January 1, 2007. The Convention is the only legally binding multilateral instrument specifically addressing computer-related crime, helping protect citizens against computer hacking and Internet fraud, as well as crimes involving electronic evidence, including child sexual exploitation (which is 2257), organized crime and terrorism. Parties to the Convention commit to effective and compatible laws and tools to fight cybercrime, and to cooperating to investigate and prosecute these crimes. Ratification of the Convention strengthens the United States’ ongoing leadership in these efforts. The Council of Europe Convention on Cybercrime is a global approach to the global problem of computer crime. The United States urges all states to consider joining the Convention. http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2006/73353.htm . __________________

2006-10-13, 01:24 PM	#2
chilihost Look at 'em. Watchin' my TV. Sittin on my couch. You better not be in my ass groove! Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 465	twintone, 2257 regulations are specific to the USA. 2257 is VERY different from child porn or copyright regulations. Other countries have cp/copyright laws in place and it is common for countries to cooperate on prosecutions for these laws. But, no other country in the world has the strict regulations and requirements of 2257. If you are running a mature sex site and your primary point of business is outside of the USA (yet live in the USA), the DOJ cannot legally walk into a NL data center and demand that the server be unplugged for 2257 violations (they have no authority outside of their juristiction), nor can they ask that local NL authorities take action as there is no NL equivalent to these regs (and they can't say its due to child protection as a mature site is pretty obviously not cp). All I was trying to say is that there are a lot of legit reasons to want offshore hosting. DJilla never mentioned any reason, but you assumed it was to dodge US laws...actually he did not even mention if it was for a US citizen or US corporation. One other thing, child sexual exploitation is NOT 2257. 2257 is the administrative requirements and documentation regulations that are imposed by the DOJ, in their effort to curbe cp. And, no, I am not a lawyer and I highly recommend everyone speaks with their local lawyer about any legal concerns. I spoke to one and got a legal opinion for my specific situation. cheers, Luke __________________ HunkMoney+BritishBucks+LatinoBucks=50+ gay sites! Last edited by chilihost; 2006-10-13 at 01:27 PM..