Internext Las Vegas 2007 - Give me some feedback! (Part 2)

Simon · 2006-10-26, 06:10 PM

Okay, since you asked...

I've pretty much decided not to go. But if I do go, it won't be to attend the show floor or seminars, or anything else the show has to offer. And there's no chance at all that I'd pay for a badge this year.

I went to lots of their shows, but never really did business on their show floors (it's like paying to get spammed). Business got done, but in hotel rooms, bars, and restaurants. None of it really with anyone I met at the show for the first time.

I think they need to completely rethink their strategy for the show. If they want lots of independent webmasters to attend (and I mention that because I believe that's the majority of this board), then they need to stop trying to make a profit from them.

They should make it some nominal fee, say $25 or less, with additional badges at $5 or $10 each at the most.

They could fill the show with webmasters if they had any sense. A packed show would mean a lot more sponsors buying booth space next show. And it would mean an even larger turnout the next show because everyone would say it was a good show if there were free seminars and the entrance fee was $25 or less.

They're still trying to make money from all sides, and it's way too much to ask when they've disapppointed the independent webmasters for too many years in a row now. And now the sponors don't want to spend money since attendance is down, particularly among one of the groups they'd like to reach.

I believe they have a flawed model and they're trying to tweak it to make things work better. I think they need a completely different model, because the one they're trying to tune up is too old and tired, and just won't work anymore.

Their show has crashed. If they want to bring it back to life, it's going to take a hell of a lot more than tweaking what they have.

-- It's sort of like if I was trying to build a high-traffic link list so I could sell link spots and traffic. But at the same time I'm also asking the average surfers to pay $50 to get into my link list. And then wondering why I don't have enough surfers coming inside to interest anyone in my link spots or traffic, or enough content inside to interest the surfers.

Greenguy · 2006-10-26, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon

...They should make it some nominal fee, say $25 or less, with additional badges at $5 or $10 each at the most...

They'll say that wouldn't work because of the "riff raff" aspect, but what would make it work?

Go from board to board & have the owners arrange/approve who's going - so they'd come to us & ask for an approved list, we'd start a thread & based on how we knew them, we could approve them for a $25 badge. They'd get assigned a code/password & when they went to buy their tickets, they were only $25 (90% off

)

OR

Have sponsors give them out to their top webmasters - sponsors would be able to weed out the trash based on traffic/sales.

There's 2 ideas for you to ponder when you're on the shitter

Linkster · 2006-10-26, 11:19 PM

DrB - Ive been to pretty much every show in Vegas and Florida - my opinion is that the last two shows in Florida as well as the last one in Vegas were a total waste of money for the badges
I really enjoyed meeting with people, playing poker, dinners, lunches(thanks cd34) parties (I even sponsored two of the players balls) and everything in between - however the show floor in all cases was a total disappointment - and had nothing to do with the AVN show next door, or the lack of babes etc etc - it was the lack of any sponsors that really wanted to push their biz that way - while there were a few that do the booth thing every year and probably can justify it - it seems that the drop in floor traffic and booth advertisers has accelerated to the point of no return.
The days of the extravegant booths and draws that we saw back in the 2001-2 era just isnt there anymore - as most sponsors have had to cut overhead just like every other biz - and until someone can come up with a way to draw in the little sponsors with cheaper rates for booths, as well as PROMOTING it!!! - the show will continue to dwindle down to nothing

Useless · 2006-10-27, 12:14 AM

If the wife and I go (my intentions change as often as my psychoses), there's no way in hell that we'd pay for AVN registration. The price is OUTRAGEOUS, especially considering that I've heard next to nothing nice about their most recent shows - not to mention the fact that it falls on the heels of that well-celebrated Jewish boy's birthday. We want to go only because it's Vegas (BABY!) and to see a few of you filthy bastards (and your hot wives, where applicable). I can promise you that no AVN convention will ever earn me more than I'm currently eking out of this rotten fucking business (pronounced: bidneth). If I was to pay for admittance to a convention, it would be Xbiz, since I've already had one solidly positive experience with them.

The perfect show for an ass like me would involve no sponsor presence. Fuck the sponsors. (That's what I say!) They can't do shit for me and I can't do a cunt hair more for them than I do now, so why bother? I want well-planned seminars which, by the way, wouldn't include two traffic brokers on a "Converting Free Traffic" panel telling me to buy traffic. I want parties/gatherings. I want food. That's all I need. The occasional handjob in a maintenance closet would be good too, but certainly not a requirement.

Preacher · 2006-10-27, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

...I want food. That's all I need...

No drink? |drunk|

murray · 2006-10-27, 01:52 AM

Im heading over this year, been a few years since my last convention. Wellits $7k for a plane ticket then I have to get food and accomidation, I dont have much cash left over for a stinking ticket ( 3 actually ).

2006-10-26, 06:10 PM	#1
Simon That which does not kill us, will try, try again. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Conch Republic Posts: 5,150	Okay, since you asked... I've pretty much decided not to go. But if I do go, it won't be to attend the show floor or seminars, or anything else the show has to offer. And there's no chance at all that I'd pay for a badge this year. I went to lots of their shows, but never really did business on their show floors (it's like paying to get spammed). Business got done, but in hotel rooms, bars, and restaurants. None of it really with anyone I met at the show for the first time. I think they need to completely rethink their strategy for the show. If they want lots of independent webmasters to attend (and I mention that because I believe that's the majority of this board), then they need to stop trying to make a profit from them. They should make it some nominal fee, say $25 or less, with additional badges at $5 or $10 each at the most. They could fill the show with webmasters if they had any sense. A packed show would mean a lot more sponsors buying booth space next show. And it would mean an even larger turnout the next show because everyone would say it was a good show if there were free seminars and the entrance fee was $25 or less. They're still trying to make money from all sides, and it's way too much to ask when they've disapppointed the independent webmasters for too many years in a row now. And now the sponors don't want to spend money since attendance is down, particularly among one of the groups they'd like to reach. I believe they have a flawed model and they're trying to tweak it to make things work better. I think they need a completely different model, because the one they're trying to tune up is too old and tired, and just won't work anymore. Their show has crashed. If they want to bring it back to life, it's going to take a hell of a lot more than tweaking what they have. -- It's sort of like if I was trying to build a high-traffic link list so I could sell link spots and traffic. But at the same time I'm also asking the average surfers to pay $50 to get into my link list. And then wondering why I don't have enough surfers coming inside to interest anyone in my link spots or traffic, or enough content inside to interest the surfers. __________________ "If you're happy and you know it, think again." -- Guru Pitka

2006-10-26, 11:19 PM	#3
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	DrB - Ive been to pretty much every show in Vegas and Florida - my opinion is that the last two shows in Florida as well as the last one in Vegas were a total waste of money for the badges I really enjoyed meeting with people, playing poker, dinners, lunches(thanks cd34) parties (I even sponsored two of the players balls) and everything in between - however the show floor in all cases was a total disappointment - and had nothing to do with the AVN show next door, or the lack of babes etc etc - it was the lack of any sponsors that really wanted to push their biz that way - while there were a few that do the booth thing every year and probably can justify it - it seems that the drop in floor traffic and booth advertisers has accelerated to the point of no return. The days of the extravegant booths and draws that we saw back in the 2001-2 era just isnt there anymore - as most sponsors have had to cut overhead just like every other biz - and until someone can come up with a way to draw in the little sponsors with cheaper rates for booths, as well as PROMOTING it!!! - the show will continue to dwindle down to nothing __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2006-10-27, 12:14 AM	#4
Useless Certified Nice Person Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dirty Undies, NY Posts: 11,268	If the wife and I go (my intentions change as often as my psychoses), there's no way in hell that we'd pay for AVN registration. The price is OUTRAGEOUS, especially considering that I've heard next to nothing nice about their most recent shows - not to mention the fact that it falls on the heels of that well-celebrated Jewish boy's birthday. We want to go only because it's Vegas (BABY!) and to see a few of you filthy bastards (and your hot wives, where applicable). I can promise you that no AVN convention will ever earn me more than I'm currently eking out of this rotten fucking business (pronounced: bidneth). If I was to pay for admittance to a convention, it would be Xbiz, since I've already had one solidly positive experience with them. The perfect show for an ass like me would involve no sponsor presence. Fuck the sponsors. (That's what I say!) They can't do shit for me and I can't do a cunt hair more for them than I do now, so why bother? I want well-planned seminars which, by the way, wouldn't include two traffic brokers on a "Converting Free Traffic" panel telling me to buy traffic. I want parties/gatherings. I want food. That's all I need. The occasional handjob in a maintenance closet would be good too, but certainly not a requirement. __________________ Click here to purchase a bridge I'm selling.

2006-10-27, 01:52 AM	#6
murray My wife is not a doobie to be passed around! On our wedding day I promised to bogart her for life! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 242	Im heading over this year, been a few years since my last convention. Wellits $7k for a plane ticket then I have to get food and accomidation, I dont have much cash left over for a stinking ticket ( 3 actually ).