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Old 2006-12-18, 10:23 AM   #1
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Don't you love it when you decide to take a whopping 36 hours off from work and something happens where your phone rings & your ICQ go nuts with incoming messages?

I'm not even going to lower myself to the wonderful name-calling game you're playing. I'll just say that I'm surprised to hear this from "an established member of this board", especially when you have no idea who you're directing the comments at. While I (LOR) did blacklist you, it was not me personally that did it, but I am responsible for my site & my reviewers, so I will assume that all those comments were directed at me.

Let me try to explain why you're on the blacklist. It was not just one submit - I'd be insane to blacklist someone based on one submit. You were blacklisted for repeatedly breaking the rules - in this case, we saw repeated submits that contained vid caps, which has been a LOR rule for a very long time. When something like this happens, we blacklist the domain in question because the submitter is obviously not reading the rules & pretty much wasting our time (and please remember that this was done long before I put in the accepted/rejected emails)

You were blacklisted from submitting to LOR. No other Link Lists, just LOR.

If you're upset that you were not notified about being on the blacklist, remember that you never bothered to notify me that you were not reading the rules & repeatedly submitting sites that broke those rules.

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... it takes about 24 to 48 hours so and keep in mind this is Sunday as well.
You'd have been a lot better off if you too this into account before you continued your little rant. I probably would have taken you off of there if you had. But now, after reading these wonderful comments & horribly incorrect speculations about me & my business, I'm not sure what I should do.

(6 months ago, I'd have told you to go fuck yourself right after I asked my reviewers to find & blacklist everything you own - but I'm still trying out this "Kinder & Gentler" approach )
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Old 2006-12-18, 11:13 AM   #2
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I'm not even going to lower myself to the wonderful name-calling game you're playing. I'll just say that I'm surprised to hear this from "an established member of this board", especially when you have no idea who you're directing the comments at. While I (LOR) did blacklist you, it was not me personally that did it, but I am responsible for my site & my reviewers, so I will assume that all those comments were directed at me.
Well at least I've moved one step forward and now know who and why. Of course some intuition told me that I would eventually run up against a bigger guy if only becasue those are the ones who use this usefulscript. Of course my rant was to provoke someone forward with an explanation. Now that it turns out to be you whom I know to be a very reasonable, helpful, and straightforward guy I will sincerely apologize for all and only the character attacks that I made upon the "secret WM". I don't think the things I said to be true regarding you personally. In that case I was in error and wrong.

However, regarding the list and the way its run I have to say I feel the same.

A couple of example facts. At the time that I subbed from Sexdug I was a straight newbie and am sure didn't even know what vid caps were. Also, it couldn't have been too many submits that "violated" the rules because I didn't submit that many from that domain because I quickly saw that I needed to know more to work better. Maybe I subbed one a month or so for a few months.

Regardless, by the time I picked it back up and I'm buying content and buying designs and subbing from new domains but scrupously following the rules by using my same old email addy I'm finding a year later I've been BL'd. Which dovetails into my previous comment about how cool is it to be helping newbies on the one hand and then blacklisting them for minor mistakes with the other. Other webmasters do use this list for checking and a submitter can be unfairly penalized. But, hey since you're using an email addy to ban would it be so hard to use the same addy to notify?

Additionally, you've added more information which tells me that I was only banned at one domain which was not the distinct impression I got from the research posts over the years that I looked at. I stand corrected. Any WM can ban for any reason from his/her site.. period. My problem was the wide net that such secret banning causes and I'm clearly not alone in this thinking.

OK! Nevertheless I've run my mouth. I apologize for attacking your character wholeheartedly however my opinoin that the system still sucks stands. You have done more to keep this business on a straight line than anybody else I've ever come across so I take all my fighting words back and have no intention of pursuing any of this any further. Sorry to start your work week off badly but my weekend sucked.
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