Where have all the big guys gone?

[Halfdeck]

Also... Are the adult sites judged by a different algorithm than mainstream?

I doubt it, but it's far easier for me to get a mainstream site fully indexed in both Google and Yahoo.

In general, the percentage of exchanged links to the total number of IBLs for a site in some mainstream spaces (specifically, sites that publish articles like Wikipedia) may be lower than in adult, simply because people naturally link to articles as points of reference.

In adult, I basically see five types of links: 1) aff links 2) internal nav links 3) link trades 4) traffic trades 5) links to our own sites. One-way "citations" aka "traffic leaks" are rare.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by Halfdeck

In adult, I basically see five types of links: 1) aff links 2) internal nav links 3) link trades 4) traffic trades 5) links to our own sites. One-way "citations" aka "traffic leaks" are rare.

Sounds right. It's an interesting problem.

I wonder if TGPs don't do so well because they end up with many thousands of small incomings, avoiding the "recip devalueation".

I suspect category links may have hurt everyone far more than we've thought.

But, I haven't been talking measurements. We'd have to take a look at the survivors and see what they are doing that's different.

[LowryBigwood]

Originally Posted by Bill

I suspect category links may have hurt everyone far more than we've thought.

Hey Bill,

Are you talking about category/niche trades on the LL's?

[Bill]

Originally Posted by LowryBigwood

Hey Bill, Are you talking about category/niche trades on the LL's?

Well, I was thinking of category recips for freesites actually, but category trades between lls would fall under the same kind of risk.

The idea is that it's very easy and quick to detect a page-to-page reciprocal linking pattern, and logical, based on the bits and pieces we learn about how google works, to theorize that google devalues page to page linking a little more so than domain to domain linking.

If that's true, linklists that don't use category recips might end up above linklists that do. I'm not watching it close enough to tell wether or not that's happening.

Like halfdeck says, it's pretty clear that one-way incoming links are what google likes right now.

How to build adult sites that take advantage of that is the question.

[LowryBigwood]

I see what you're saying, and it looks like some sites like PenisBot has retained its position. However, I have gained position and I use cat linking with recips. I don't know if you can figure out google, but I think they just fucked up personally. That is judging from my mainstream sites that got shit on. Also sites like PB have many years on me, so it's hard to say what's what.

[LowryBigwood]

Originally Posted by Halfdeck

In adult, I basically see five types of links: 1) aff links 2) internal nav links 3) link trades 4) traffic trades 5) links to our own sites. One-way "citations" aka "traffic leaks" are rare.

I agree with this as well. Natural incoming links do seem to be much lower than our mainstream side. But, I do see them still.