Link Lists

GiantGnome · 2004-01-22, 08:25 PM

Hello everyone.|hello| One thing I have wanted for a long time is my own link list. I have a few questions. Can I make money off of running one? If so how? And what does it take to start one?

Thanks in advance!

Greenguy · 2004-01-22, 08:39 PM

THAT'S A TRICK QUESTION!

In a nutshell, yes, you can make money by running a links list & all it really takes to start one is time.

You build free sites now, right?

GiantGnome · 2004-01-22, 08:59 PM

Hi GG. Thanks for the reply. Yes I build free sites now but getting board. As far as time goes, I have all day and every day. Im disabled so I spend every day at home.

GiantGnome · 2004-01-22, 09:02 PM

And by the way, Im not asking for trade secrets. LOL

Right now the only way I can think of making money from one would be paid advertising.

Cleo · 2004-01-22, 09:06 PM

It is one of the most profitable things that I do, but it took me years to get where I am and I'm still trying to get more.

I also spend a lot of time and energy promoting my link list, it is long hours of work.

The real value of a link list is having this wonderful virtual machine which is a filtered traffic pump that works 24/7 for you.

GiantGnome · 2004-01-22, 09:15 PM

Thank you Cleo. Im guessing there are lots of scripts needed right? If so, where do you recommend I go get them?

Greenguy · 2004-01-22, 09:37 PM

I'd recommend a script as well. I use Link Admin that was built by Richard at Richard's Realm (and installed by our very own MrMaryLou) - but it is $400 (which is well worth it if you are really serious about it)

Of course, you can do it by hand (I did my link by hand until they hit around 2000 total) & if you wanted to get the script down the road, Richard can export your current links from the html pages into his database file.

I asked about free sites because if you have a lot of them, it'll be easier to get the site looking ready for surfers & webmasters (no one wants to visit a link list that has 3 links in each category - LOL)

There's a lot of benefits to it - target traffic, your own source of traffic for new projects.

But it is a lot of work too - hopefully you'll get big & have tons of submissions - LOL

sickkittens · 2004-01-23, 10:04 PM

GG,

Do you have ICQ or AIM?

guitar riff · 2004-01-23, 10:21 PM

Ya Know i finally found a home where i can read good post and not have to waller thru sh*t to get something usefull.
Giant Gnome you definitley have found the right place to come for your answers because i have asked questions here myself and recieved replies in little or no time at all and if ya really want to learn be sure ya check out Greenguy and Jim's Radio Show it will teach you alot plus is enjoyable ( Even Jims Jokes Sometimes )

I hope you hang out here because ya will learn alot.

By the way im just a little an in the world of porn but trying to change that :-) and with GG, Jim, MML, Cleo, Tommy, Danger Dave, Linkster and anyone else i missed i have learned alot and have slowly started to build my so called empire and have seen the profits increase little by little.

So Take all advice from they will teach you alot and they will also fatten your wallet .

Frank · 2004-01-23, 11:32 PM

If I may interject 2 cent.

If you want 2 start a "link list" at the present point in time.
Make it "niche specific" and hopefully something u know and like.

Next.... if you don't know "traffic flow" and "filtering", then u may
want to reconsider that realm.

Next.. if you don't have enough of your OWN sites to fill it. Or know your realm, Then it's NOT time 2 start. In My opinion.

Alphawolf · 2004-01-23, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greenguy
I asked about free sites because if you have a lot of them, it'll be easier to get the site looking ready for surfers & webmasters (no one wants to visit a link list that has 3 links in each category - LOL)

There's a lot of benefits to it - target traffic, your own source of traffic for new projects.

But it is a lot of work too - hopefully you'll get big & have tons of submissions - LOL

GG,

I wondered when that post came up from Extreme John about ripping links...

Been wonderin' what keeps people from simply copying all that hard work that you (or other quality LL's) have built and tweakin' it a bit- and calling it their own?

Clearly, way bad ethically- but can you in any way own a copyright on a list of links?

Surfn · 2004-01-24, 03:24 AM

AW

Yes, it's copyrighted the second it's posted.

Alphawolf · 2004-01-24, 01:05 PM

Surfn,

Interesting. Didn't think that was the case under copyright law.

Alphawolf · 2004-01-24, 02:18 PM

I found a couple threads on wmw on this subject:

http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum17/708-2-15.htm

http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum44/227.htm

Surfn · 2004-01-24, 02:54 PM

The hun won his case in International court establishing the principle of intellectual property as it applies to a database/links. This was in the late 90's and the precedent for such matters.

Alphawolf · 2004-01-24, 03:23 PM

Great info to know for anyone wanting to start a link list.

Reading GFY (as I started to) tends to make one paranoid...in general.

xxxjay · 2004-01-24, 09:10 PM

you can make money
just be prepared to bust you balls working

i know i did

plateman · 2004-01-24, 09:48 PM

Yea i fucked up when i started mine i should have made it for 1 or 2 niches dont do like me and start with 40 categories LOL but if you work at it everyday someday it will be done enough to list at the other linklists and you should have traffic built up by then and having people submitting sites as i have all of the building blocks in place except i need a lot more workers to get it done

but as i add categories and keep the thing growing and then will come time that you just dont feel like fucking with it, then go back to building feeder sites because while your building your links and pages your half done link list is one hell of a hub

also The biggest thing i hate with the site is the descriptions for the pay links you could say anything to rush through it but it would make you look stupid

http://www.pornoplentyxxxlinks.com

GiantGnome · 2004-01-25, 12:39 AM

Thank you everyone for the great information!

Pusher · 2004-01-25, 02:09 AM

I haven't been around as long as the big boys, but I'll throw
in my 2 cents worth (probably what it's worth)

First of all, it took me about 2 years of hard work to start making
a decent living, but I made a lot of mistakes, one being not asking enough questions-so you've got a head start!

If you have a lot of free sites that you've built yourself, that is a good start, since you can list those on your LL.

When you start, limit your categories to 4 or 5 basic ones (amateur, teens, hardcore, ethnic, etc.)

For those of us entering the biz at this late date, I think it's
important to choose a domain name that will be relevant
to the SE's, particularly Google... Try and find a domain with
sex, porn, xxx, etc.

One last thought...make your category files in your main domain
(don't create new directories for each category). This way, your Page Rank for each category will be 1 less than your main page. A lot of time when you make a new category, the files there are 2 less than your main page...

Hope this helps, and Good Luck!

caringneo · 2004-01-25, 12:22 PM

Quote:

(don't create new directories for each category). This way, your Page Rank for each category will be 1 less than your main page. A lot of time when you make a new category, the files there are 2 less than your main page...

Wow! That's a new info to me. I thought the SE always rank the index pages hingh. So www.domianname.com/teen.html will be ranked hiher than www.domainname.com/teen/ , considering all other things are similar?

Neo

DangerDave · 2004-01-25, 04:29 PM

Be very careful who you get your SE advice from

Quote:

(don't create new directories for each category). This way, your Page Rank for each category will be 1 less than your main page. A lot of time when you make a new category, the files there are 2 less than your main page...

IMO that is a complete crock! Page rank is NOT dependent on where you put the page at all!

Lots of PR whores put every page in the root of the domain and think that there PR is better... when it simply isnt.. If that was the case every webmaster on the planet would have every page in the root.

Which of course they dont..

DD

xxxjay · 2004-01-25, 06:57 PM

i don't think it matters if you use one directory per category or if you put all of the categories in one directory for se purposes

really do whatever make it easier to manage you site

i keep all my cats in the same directory

Pusher · 2004-01-25, 07:18 PM

Well, I guess you live and learn...sorry about the bad advice - I certainly didn't try to mislead anyone - and it's good to know, as it makes organizing things a lot easier...

2004-01-22, 08:25 PM	#1
GiantGnome Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 23	Link Lists Hello everyone.\|hello\| One thing I have wanted for a long time is my own link list. I have a few questions. Can I make money off of running one? If so how? And what does it take to start one? Thanks in advance!

2004-01-22, 08:39 PM	#2
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	THAT'S A TRICK QUESTION! In a nutshell, yes, you can make money by running a links list & all it really takes to start one is time. You build free sites now, right? __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2004-01-22, 09:06 PM	#5
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	It is one of the most profitable things that I do, but it took me years to get where I am and I'm still trying to get more. I also spend a lot of time and energy promoting my link list, it is long hours of work. The real value of a link list is having this wonderful virtual machine which is a filtered traffic pump that works 24/7 for you. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2004-01-22, 09:37 PM	#7
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	I'd recommend a script as well. I use Link Admin that was built by Richard at Richard's Realm (and installed by our very own MrMaryLou) - but it is $400 (which is well worth it if you are really serious about it) Of course, you can do it by hand (I did my link by hand until they hit around 2000 total) & if you wanted to get the script down the road, Richard can export your current links from the html pages into his database file. I asked about free sites because if you have a lot of them, it'll be easier to get the site looking ready for surfers & webmasters (no one wants to visit a link list that has 3 links in each category - LOL) There's a lot of benefits to it - target traffic, your own source of traffic for new projects. But it is a lot of work too - hopefully you'll get big & have tons of submissions - LOL __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2004-01-24, 01:05 PM	#13
Alphawolf Don't come to Florida for vacation. We're closed. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 1,874	Surfn, Interesting. Didn't think that was the case under copyright law. __________________ Regards, AW Weekly Pay. Sites That Convert. Start Pimpin' Today!

2004-01-22, 08:59 PM	#3
GiantGnome Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 23	Hi GG. Thanks for the reply. Yes I build free sites now but getting board. As far as time goes, I have all day and every day. Im disabled so I spend every day at home.

2004-01-22, 09:02 PM	#4
GiantGnome Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 23	And by the way, Im not asking for trade secrets. LOL Right now the only way I can think of making money from one would be paid advertising.

2004-01-22, 09:15 PM	#6
GiantGnome Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 23	Thank you Cleo. Im guessing there are lots of scripts needed right? If so, where do you recommend I go get them?

2004-01-23, 10:04 PM	#8
sickkittens You can't keep blaming yourself. Just blame yourself once, and move on Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 353	GG, Do you have ICQ or AIM?

2004-01-23, 10:21 PM	#9
guitar riff Asleep at the switch? I wasn't asleep, I was drunk Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In a van Down by the river. Posts: 216	Ya Know i finally found a home where i can read good post and not have to waller thru sh*t to get something usefull. Giant Gnome you definitley have found the right place to come for your answers because i have asked questions here myself and recieved replies in little or no time at all and if ya really want to learn be sure ya check out Greenguy and Jim's Radio Show it will teach you alot plus is enjoyable ( Even Jims Jokes Sometimes ) I hope you hang out here because ya will learn alot. By the way im just a little an in the world of porn but trying to change that :-) and with GG, Jim, MML, Cleo, Tommy, Danger Dave, Linkster and anyone else i missed i have learned alot and have slowly started to build my so called empire and have seen the profits increase little by little. So Take all advice from they will teach you alot and they will also fatten your wallet .

2004-01-23, 11:32 PM	#10
Frank Heh Heh Heh! Lisa! Vampires are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 70	If I may interject 2 cent. If you want 2 start a "link list" at the present point in time. Make it "niche specific" and hopefully something u know and like. Next.... if you don't know "traffic flow" and "filtering", then u may want to reconsider that realm. Next.. if you don't have enough of your OWN sites to fill it. Or know your realm, Then it's NOT time 2 start. In My opinion.

2004-01-24, 03:24 AM	#12
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	AW Yes, it's copyrighted the second it's posted.

2004-01-24, 02:18 PM	#14
Alphawolf Don't come to Florida for vacation. We're closed. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 1,874	I found a couple threads on wmw on this subject: http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum17/708-2-15.htm http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum44/227.htm __________________ Regards, AW Weekly Pay. Sites That Convert. Start Pimpin' Today!

2004-01-24, 02:54 PM	#15
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	The hun won his case in International court establishing the principle of intellectual property as it applies to a database/links. This was in the late 90's and the precedent for such matters.

2004-01-24, 03:23 PM	#16
Alphawolf Don't come to Florida for vacation. We're closed. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 1,874	Great info to know for anyone wanting to start a link list. Reading GFY (as I started to) tends to make one paranoid...in general. __________________ Regards, AW Weekly Pay. Sites That Convert. Start Pimpin' Today!

2004-01-24, 09:10 PM	#17
xxxjay You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: atlanta Posts: 1,787	you can make money just be prepared to bust you balls working i know i did __________________ Circle Of Violence

2004-01-24, 09:48 PM	#18
plateman What can I do - I was born this way LOL Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ohio Posts: 3,086	Yea i fucked up when i started mine i should have made it for 1 or 2 niches dont do like me and start with 40 categories LOL but if you work at it everyday someday it will be done enough to list at the other linklists and you should have traffic built up by then and having people submitting sites as i have all of the building blocks in place except i need a lot more workers to get it done but as i add categories and keep the thing growing and then will come time that you just dont feel like fucking with it, then go back to building feeder sites because while your building your links and pages your half done link list is one hell of a hub also The biggest thing i hate with the site is the descriptions for the pay links you could say anything to rush through it but it would make you look stupid http://www.pornoplentyxxxlinks.com

2004-01-25, 12:39 AM	#19
GiantGnome Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 23	Thank you everyone for the great information!

2004-01-25, 02:09 AM	#20
Pusher If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 306	I haven't been around as long as the big boys, but I'll throw in my 2 cents worth (probably what it's worth) First of all, it took me about 2 years of hard work to start making a decent living, but I made a lot of mistakes, one being not asking enough questions-so you've got a head start! If you have a lot of free sites that you've built yourself, that is a good start, since you can list those on your LL. When you start, limit your categories to 4 or 5 basic ones (amateur, teens, hardcore, ethnic, etc.) For those of us entering the biz at this late date, I think it's important to choose a domain name that will be relevant to the SE's, particularly Google... Try and find a domain with sex, porn, xxx, etc. One last thought...make your category files in your main domain (don't create new directories for each category). This way, your Page Rank for each category will be 1 less than your main page. A lot of time when you make a new category, the files there are 2 less than your main page... Hope this helps, and Good Luck! __________________ Adult Sex Sites Submit Sites Here Free Sex Pix Submit Sites Here

2004-01-25, 06:57 PM	#23
xxxjay You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: atlanta Posts: 1,787	i don't think it matters if you use one directory per category or if you put all of the categories in one directory for se purposes really do whatever make it easier to manage you site i keep all my cats in the same directory __________________ Circle Of Violence

2004-01-25, 07:18 PM	#24
Pusher If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 306	Well, I guess you live and learn...sorry about the bad advice - I certainly didn't try to mislead anyone - and it's good to know, as it makes organizing things a lot easier... __________________ Adult Sex Sites Submit Sites Here Free Sex Pix Submit Sites Here