How to get some traffic to my site

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Aardvark

...Build a pop-under page and fill it with 20-30 relevant toplist links....

Just remember, that's a great way to piss off any surfers you currently have.

[Useless]

It'll also piss off your link trade partners and eliminate any chance of future trades.

[Aardvark]

Originally Posted by Greenie

Just remember, that's a great way to piss off any surfers you currently have.

A pop-under/week will not kill your business or piss off a surfer if done properly. It needs to be done in a way that flows with you site. Something like: Thank you for visiting site ABC. If you would like more Niche ABC porn, visit our fine partners...You get the idea. This is not the same as an out-of-nowhere FriendFiender popunder which does not even relate to the site's niche.

You can also set your pop-under to once a month, if your surfer has cookie enables. If he doesn't then who cares. CCbill won't work and many cookie based program won't either.

Greenie's comments are rather radical. Mainstream sites are now defeating the popup blocker and using other techniques to get their ads in your face for one reason: It works and people do go back to the site when it is relevant.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Aardvark

Greenie's comments are rather radical. Mainstream sites are now defeating the popup blocker and using other techniques to get their ads in your face for one reason: It works and people do go back to the site when it is relevant.

Radicial? Yeah, treating the surfer like a welcome guest is horribly radical.

This board is composed mostly of webmasters who follow a no bullshit philisophy when it comes to the surfer and our fellow webmasters. Most of us would deny any link exchange request where the requesting site has any type of pop, be it every visit or once per millenium.

[Aardvark]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Radicial? Yeah, treating the surfer like a welcome guest is horribly radical.

This board is composed mostly of webmasters who follow a no bullshit philisophy when it comes to the surfer and our fellow webmasters. Most of us would deny any link exchange request where the requesting site has any type of pop, be it every visit or once per millenium.

A single relevant pop-under, in my opinion is not bullshit. What's bullshit is when you get circle-jerked trying to navigate a TGP to see some meaningful content and you keep boucing onto unrelated pages that don't match the thumbnail.

Again, most webmaster (95%) account for 5% of affiliate commissions. This might be hard to swallow but that's reality! I'm not too concerned about being like every body else.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Aardvark

Again, most webmaster (95%) account for 5% of affiliate commissions. This might be hard to swallow but that's reality!

It's not hard swallow because we already know it. This may be the newbie forum, but this isn't a newbie board.

Originally Posted by Aardvark

I'm not too concerned about being like every body else.

Good, go be your own person. Go be part of that 5%. More power to you. Just don't expect not to be corrected when you give poor advice to newbies.

[Aardvark]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

It's not hard swallow because we already know it. This may be the newbie forum, but this isn't a newbie board.
Good, go be your own person. Go be part of that 5%. More power to you. Just don't expect not to be corrected when you give poor advice to newbies.

I appreciate other people's opinion regardless of their perspective. I think the initial poster of this thread has more value by having different viewpoints than by having other posters sucking up to the board masters.

It is pretentious of you to infer that you are correct and I am wrong. I think this should be left for the reader to decide. Unless you think they can't think for themselves.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Aardvark

It is pretentious of you to infer that you are correct and I am wrong. I think this should be left for the reader to decide. Unless you think they can't think for themselves.

It is pretentious of you to infer that you are correct and I am wrong. I think this should be left for the reader to decide. Unless you think they can't think for themselves.

(For the slow thinkers: I purposely replied to him using his exact statement to me. It works both ways.)

[Greenguy]

Useless said it best:

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

...This board is composed mostly of webmasters who follow a no bullshit philosophy when it comes to the surfer and our fellow webmasters. Most of us would deny any link exchange request where the requesting site has any type of pop, be it every visit or once per millennium.

That really is the mentality of 99.44% of the people that post here on a regular basis.

We're a group of hard working webmasters that don't fuck with our surfers with consoles or pop-unders or circle jerks or blind links or poor advertising practices. We all basically build sites that we would have no problem surfing ourselves.

Your ideas seem to be different from those - and that's fine but you're going to meet a lot of opposition on this board.

I'll admit that your last 2 threads over in Products & Services led me to believe you were some sort of spamming kook, but this thread has proven me wrong on that assumption. I'm not going to ban you because of your position on what marketing practices are good or bad, but I really think that my last statement is correct: this board is not a good place for you.

[SheepGuy]

What I hate is when I tell somebody what I do, and I hear "Oh, one of them pop up guys."
What I like is when they check out a couple of my sites and say "Hey man, you've got some pretty good stuff there!"
I like to think that most surfers have a good experience at my sites and a lot of them bookmark them. A lot of them buy as well.
I've only been doing it full time for 9 years or so though, maybe pop-ups are the wave of the future
And if you're going to go that route, why limit yourself to pissing off surfers when you can go the whole nine yards and piss off link partners as well?
We need a sarcastic button

[Wazdom]

hehe, reminds me of my first free host full cj site long time ago .. man that baby rocked .. must of had 21 pops with one click ..

Aardvark its not like that anymore, even full cj sites these days are very careful with pops .. yet alone clean webmastering .. its just not acceptable anymore