Don't you just love seeing "Gonzy the Weasel" squirm on TV?

Bill · 2007-03-13, 04:11 PM

CNN's Jack Cafferty said the other day, when you look up "weasel" in the dictionary, now you find a picture of our US Attorney General, Chief Porno Inspector Gonzales...

I just love seeing Gonzy the Weasel wiggle on the tube trying to avoid getting blamed for the politically motivated firing of a bunch of federal prosecutors.

Looks like one of the prosecutors was fired in an attempt to keep Jack Abramson from being indicted, too.

I hope this continues to blow up.

Toby · 2007-03-13, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill

...hope this continues to blow up.

yup, crank up the heat, keep the AG's office occupied trying to cover their own ass.

Jim · 2007-03-13, 06:19 PM

I do like to see any Republican squirm but, any President does have a right to fire all federal prosecutors. It sucks but does happen.

Didn't Janet Reno fire all of them when Clinton was in office?

Torn Rose · 2007-03-13, 07:09 PM

Torn Rose · 2007-03-13, 07:11 PM

Jim I have a reasponse to you, but I cant for some reason, post it here, when I try I'm told the 2 paragraphs are too short to post.

Torn Rose · 2007-03-13, 07:17 PM

Jim, who the President can hire or fire is not the issue, they did target, this is the word used in emails from Gonzos chief of staff to Harriet the cleaning lady 8 lawyers and said You suck and your not doing your job, so your fired when they all have high reviews in their records.

Then you look at who the 8 are and who they pissed off and then it all makes sense. Enforcing laws is never supposed to be politically motivated, and all evidence is showing that the purge did in fact fire 8 lawyers for political reasons only.

Torn Rose · 2007-03-13, 07:18 PM

if my last post reads like shit, it's not my fault it took me 30 mins to post it.

Jim · 2007-03-13, 07:29 PM

You know me Torn. I was just being The Devil's Advocate. I love to see crap like this happening

And the point is, it should have been disclosed to Congress.

Toby · 2007-03-14, 01:11 PM

I'm not a big Hillary fan, but it looks like she's jumped on this issue with both feet.

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/blog/

Linkster · 2007-03-14, 01:20 PM

Jim - you are actually correct - most presidents fire all of their federal prosecuters when they come into office as a routine thing - since those are usually political assignments
The difference here is those were prosecuters werent old holdovers - they were just doing their job and it was well on its way to a big emabarrasment - if not leading to some pretty hefty prosecutions that they didnt want to happen

So yeah - youll hear the pundits say - well Clinton fired all of his when he came to office - trying to divert the subject - since all presidents do that when they take office

But not halfway through a second term

Torn Rose · 2007-03-14, 02:23 PM

Actually, no one is fired in transitions of administrations, they all resign to save face from being fired, and if they do not get their jobs back no one looks bad, which is the point of the tradition, to keep the POTUS from looking bad.

Linda Tripp was fired since she thought she did the GOP a huge favor and refused to resign since she thought she was owed a job from the GOP so she sued and lost.

I think these 8 lawyers will be a start of something bigger.

A friend of mine sent me a link this morning, said 2 of those 8 that was fired refused to bring obscenity charges in the battle against pornography which I find interesting.

docholly · 2007-04-19, 10:03 PM

Did you guys catch him today??? Hitachi had like 60 big screens and they all had the hearings playing..

I saw that some GOP senators are now calling for his resignation too.

Is it Karmatically wrong to do the banana dance??

Toby · 2007-04-19, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by docholly

Is it Karmatically wrong to do the banana dance??

Karmatically wrong? I hope not, cuz I'll see the dancing banana, and raise a pink elephant.

Bill · 2007-04-19, 10:18 PM

AVN said this:

"WASHINGTON - In testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee today, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales confirmed that the United States Attorney for the District of Nevada, Daniel Bogden, was fired for failing to bring any obscenity cases, although pressured to do so by Brent Ward, head of the Justice Department's Obscenity Prosecution Task Force.

Under questioning from Sen. Sam Brownback, the administration's main congressional proponent for destruction of the adult industry, Gonzales answered a query about the reasons for Bogden's firing that there were concerns about "the energy in [Bogden's] department in this fast-growing district" and about the lack of any obscenity prosecutions. No other reasons were given for Bogden's firing, and Brownback repeated the "obscenity" justification in his summary at the end of his allotted time for questions.

And since the entire purpose of the Judiciary Committee's investigation is to find out whether eight U.S. Attorneys (USAs) from various districts around the country were fired for "political reasons," it would seem that Gonzales' statement has just made their case for them, since few policies have been more politically charged in the Bush administration than advancing the religious right's obsession with stamping out all forms of sexually explicit expression. "

http://avn.com/index.php?Primary_Nav...tent_ID=287541

But if Speedy weasels out of this one it could be seen as a confirmation of the "War on Adults".

SirMoby · 2007-04-20, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim

I do like to see any Republican squirm but, any President does have a right to fire all federal prosecutors. It sucks but does happen.

Didn't Janet Reno fire all of them when Clinton was in office?

Yes, the President does have the right to replace them but we give him that power with the understanding that he will not use that power for personal gain.

The President is not elected dictator or emperor but President. He is supposed to do what is best for the country and not himself. This is a pretty clear case of him focusing on himself and ignoring the country.

Just because it's legal doesn't make it ethical. Wasn't this the guy that was going to bring integrity back?

docholly · 2007-04-20, 09:58 AM

The funny thing is, Bill, that the district that he covers includes Nye county which has all the LEGAL brothals. And I wonder if it isn't an interference in states rights (one of the FOUNDING platforms of the GOP) for him or anyone on the federal level to go after them??

Maybe Gonzy wanted him to go after the showgirls at Bally's for going topless.

2007-03-13, 04:11 PM	#1
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	Don't you just love seeing "Gonzy the Weasel" squirm on TV? CNN's Jack Cafferty said the other day, when you look up "weasel" in the dictionary, now you find a picture of our US Attorney General, Chief Porno Inspector Gonzales... I just love seeing Gonzy the Weasel wiggle on the tube trying to avoid getting blamed for the politically motivated firing of a bunch of federal prosecutors. Looks like one of the prosecutors was fired in an attempt to keep Jack Abramson from being indicted, too. I hope this continues to blow up.

2007-03-14, 01:11 PM	#9
Toby Lonewolf Internet Sales Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 4,826	I'm not a big Hillary fan, but it looks like she's jumped on this issue with both feet. http://www.hillaryclinton.com/blog/ __________________ Latex Vixens Babes In Boots Well Heeled Women Dressing For Sex Stocking Vixens

2007-03-14, 01:20 PM	#10
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	Jim - you are actually correct - most presidents fire all of their federal prosecuters when they come into office as a routine thing - since those are usually political assignments The difference here is those were prosecuters werent old holdovers - they were just doing their job and it was well on its way to a big emabarrasment - if not leading to some pretty hefty prosecutions that they didnt want to happen So yeah - youll hear the pundits say - well Clinton fired all of his when he came to office - trying to divert the subject - since all presidents do that when they take office But not halfway through a second term __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2007-04-19, 10:03 PM	#12
docholly Nothing funnier than the ridiculous faces you people make mid-coitus Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Sin-City USA Posts: 4,973	Did you guys catch him today??? Hitachi had like 60 big screens and they all had the hearings playing.. I saw that some GOP senators are now calling for his resignation too. Is it Karmatically wrong to do the banana dance?? __________________ Support Indie Porn Sites OMGoddess You know you need some Bling!!

2007-04-20, 09:58 AM	#16
docholly Nothing funnier than the ridiculous faces you people make mid-coitus Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Sin-City USA Posts: 4,973	The funny thing is, Bill, that the district that he covers includes Nye county which has all the LEGAL brothals. And I wonder if it isn't an interference in states rights (one of the FOUNDING platforms of the GOP) for him or anyone on the federal level to go after them?? Maybe Gonzy wanted him to go after the showgirls at Bally's for going topless. __________________ Support Indie Porn Sites OMGoddess You know you need some Bling!!

2007-03-13, 06:19 PM	#3
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	I do like to see any Republican squirm but, any President does have a right to fire all federal prosecutors. It sucks but does happen. Didn't Janet Reno fire all of them when Clinton was in office?

2007-03-13, 07:09 PM	#4
Torn Rose "Faith is believing what you know ain't so." ~ Mark Twain Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 4,806	test

2007-03-13, 07:11 PM	#5
Torn Rose "Faith is believing what you know ain't so." ~ Mark Twain Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 4,806	Jim I have a reasponse to you, but I cant for some reason, post it here, when I try I'm told the 2 paragraphs are too short to post.

2007-03-13, 07:17 PM	#6
Torn Rose "Faith is believing what you know ain't so." ~ Mark Twain Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 4,806	Jim, who the President can hire or fire is not the issue, they did target, this is the word used in emails from Gonzos chief of staff to Harriet the cleaning lady 8 lawyers and said You suck and your not doing your job, so your fired when they all have high reviews in their records. Then you look at who the 8 are and who they pissed off and then it all makes sense. Enforcing laws is never supposed to be politically motivated, and all evidence is showing that the purge did in fact fire 8 lawyers for political reasons only.

2007-03-13, 07:18 PM	#7
Torn Rose "Faith is believing what you know ain't so." ~ Mark Twain Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 4,806	if my last post reads like shit, it's not my fault it took me 30 mins to post it.

2007-03-13, 07:29 PM	#8
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	You know me Torn. I was just being The Devil's Advocate. I love to see crap like this happening And the point is, it should have been disclosed to Congress.

2007-03-14, 02:23 PM	#11
Torn Rose "Faith is believing what you know ain't so." ~ Mark Twain Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 4,806	Actually, no one is fired in transitions of administrations, they all resign to save face from being fired, and if they do not get their jobs back no one looks bad, which is the point of the tradition, to keep the POTUS from looking bad. Linda Tripp was fired since she thought she did the GOP a huge favor and refused to resign since she thought she was owed a job from the GOP so she sued and lost. I think these 8 lawyers will be a start of something bigger. A friend of mine sent me a link this morning, said 2 of those 8 that was fired refused to bring obscenity charges in the battle against pornography which I find interesting.

2007-04-19, 10:18 PM	#14
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	AVN said this: "WASHINGTON - In testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee today, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales confirmed that the United States Attorney for the District of Nevada, Daniel Bogden, was fired for failing to bring any obscenity cases, although pressured to do so by Brent Ward, head of the Justice Department's Obscenity Prosecution Task Force. Under questioning from Sen. Sam Brownback, the administration's main congressional proponent for destruction of the adult industry, Gonzales answered a query about the reasons for Bogden's firing that there were concerns about "the energy in [Bogden's] department in this fast-growing district" and about the lack of any obscenity prosecutions. No other reasons were given for Bogden's firing, and Brownback repeated the "obscenity" justification in his summary at the end of his allotted time for questions. And since the entire purpose of the Judiciary Committee's investigation is to find out whether eight U.S. Attorneys (USAs) from various districts around the country were fired for "political reasons," it would seem that Gonzales' statement has just made their case for them, since few policies have been more politically charged in the Bush administration than advancing the religious right's obsession with stamping out all forms of sexually explicit expression. " http://avn.com/index.php?Primary_Nav...tent_ID=287541 But if Speedy weasels out of this one it could be seen as a confirmation of the "War on Adults".