Do we, as an adult webmaster community, oppose supporting adult versions of YouTube?

[Useless]

Originally Posted by spazlabz

Would any of you be interested in using a clone of this type of thing if it was a hosted one by your sponsor? Lets say with advertisements all over the pages for the various sites the sponsor has and all with your link code automatically in every link.

Not at all.

I don't intend on sending surfers to any SINGLE page where they can be easily fed all the free movies they need.

Here's the gauntlet - slip it on. I challenge all sponsors who think tube sites are a good marketing concept to create your own such clone. Pack it full of your movie clips. I don't care if they're 15 seconds or 150 seconds. Push your traffic to that for a few months and watch your ROI drop. Go for it! What you'll discover is that surfers sit there from 10-60 minutes at a time. And you'll see a much lower click-thru ratio than that of TGP galleries or free sites. Much, much lower. (Just don't ask me to help you with bandwidth bill.) If you're still willing to ask affiliates to send traffic to it AFTER your own in-house tests, I'll assume you have great big balls simply packed full of crazy juice.

Also, make sure you hire the same non-English speaking designers to create your ads as you do on your hosted galleries.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Not at all.

I don't intend on sending surfers to any SINGLE page where they can be easily fed all the free movies they need.

Here's the gauntlet - slip it on. I challenge all sponsors who think tube sites are a good marketing concept to create your own such clone. Pack it full of your movie clips. I don't care if they're 15 seconds or 150 seconds. Push your traffic to that for a few months and watch your ROI drop. Go for it! What you'll discover is that surfers sit there from 10-60 minutes at a time. And you'll see a much lower click-thru ratio than that of TGP galleries or free sites. Much, much lower. (Just don't ask me to help you with bandwidth bill.) If you're still willing to ask affiliates to send traffic to it AFTER your own in-house tests, I'll assume you have great big balls simply packed full of crazy juice.

Also, make sure you hire the same non-English speaking designers to create your ads as you do on your hosted galleries.

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[ClickBuster]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Not at all.

I don't intend on sending surfers to any SINGLE page where they can be easily fed all the free movies they need.

Here's the gauntlet - slip it on. I challenge all sponsors who think tube sites are a good marketing concept to create your own such clone. Pack it full of your movie clips. I don't care if they're 15 seconds or 150 seconds. Push your traffic to that for a few months and watch your ROI drop. Go for it! What you'll discover is that surfers sit there from 10-60 minutes at a time. And you'll see a much lower click-thru ratio than that of TGP galleries or free sites. Much, much lower. (Just don't ask me to help you with bandwidth bill.) If you're still willing to ask affiliates to send traffic to it AFTER your own in-house tests, I'll assume you have great big balls simply packed full of crazy juice.

Also, make sure you hire the same non-English speaking designers to create your ads as you do on your hosted galleries.

How can you be 100% sure about that, since the vids on most of the Tube sites push different domains, watermarked in the video or after that? I bet that many of the potential customers type in the domain name of the site without going thru any ref codes and such.

I think the best way to find out is to start publishing vids promoting your own domain and see how that converts.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by ClickBuster

I think the best way to find out is to start publishing vids promoting your own domain and see how that converts.

It's all about the ROI, or lack there of. Sure, they'll be a limited amount of type-in traffic. Everything I've read about tube sites reports of a struggle to stay afloat. Can they be profitable? Of course. But the ROI is typically much lower than that of other mediums.

I truly fear for the sponsor's wallet that decides to launch a hosted tube clone for affiliate traffic. If you're paying out 50-60% or worse - $35PPS - you'll find bandwidth costs, even in this age of cheap BW, to be horribly cumbersome. Click-thru-wise, it'll potentially have a lower value than those damnable surfer boards where they post 25 hosted vid galleries in a single post. The surfer gets all he/she needs [of a site's content] in one spot.