So, how does a trackback work?

[Cleo]

Wow after reading this thread it is all as clear as mud.

[Bill]

Well, one thing is now clear to me.

I meant putting a one way permalink in a post body, and did not mean trackbacking.

That's the thing I was suggesting we do a bit more of, tho, as hony suggested, it will tend to be a bit of trouble, and we'll probably only do it sporadically.

But, it might help "vaccinate" our blogs from having only index-to-index links, and not having at least a few interior page to interior page links, making them look a tiny bit better to the various search engines.

As well as giving something slightly fun to our surfers to follow. Surfers like to explore.

I think it's interesting that virgohippy didn't put the /trackback/ at the end of the permalink, yet the linked blog treated it as a trackback. I've seen that too, and that's what I thought a trackback was.

Why did his usage work the way it did?

Does nofollow and dofollow have any affect on this?

[walrus]

Originally Posted by Bill

Well, one thing is now clear to me.

I meant putting a one way permalink in a post body, and did not mean trackbacking.

That's the thing I was suggesting we do a bit more of, tho, as hony suggested, it will tend to be a bit of trouble, and we'll probably only do it sporadically.

But, it might help "vaccinate" our blogs from having only index-to-index links, and not having at least a few interior page to interior page links, making them look a tiny bit better to the various search engines.

As well as giving something slightly fun to our surfers to follow. Surfers like to explore.

By definition, that would create a ping-back which should still post a recipricol link. It just would only add the post title and URI into comments and not an excerpt from the post. To do what you want the person you are going to be linking to would need to turn off the "accept pings" for the post you were going to link to.

Also, what you describe above is why I've started creating seperate templates for categories. So that I can do category specific link exchanges.

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Originally Posted by Bill

I think it's interesting that virgohippy didn't put the /trackback/ at the end of the permalink, yet the linked blog treated it as a trackback. I've seen that too, and that's what I thought a trackback was.

Why did his usage work the way it did?

I havent spent a lot of time verifying this but I believe it has to do with the version of WP being used at both ends. Like I know I use 2.01 and that if I just post the URI from one blog to another, no ping-back occurs but I can do trackback's by using the /trackback/ at the end of the post URI.

I've worked with others who wanted to do something similar to this and I found that accepting pings seemed to be a WP2.01 issue. Although I know the script sends the pings as I have had it work with non-WP scripts.

WP1.5x seems to be more forgiving than as to whether the /trackback/ is added or not to the URI.

But to give any type of definative answer, I'd need a much larger sampling.

Originally Posted by Bill

Does nofollow and dofollow have any affect on this?

Two different things the follow / don't follow is a comments issue and not a posts issue. You have to add rel="nofollow" inside a post if you want to do a nofollow on a link in a post.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by walrus

By definition, that would create a ping-back which should still post a recipricol link. It just would only add the post title and URI into comments and not an excerpt from the post. To do what you want the person you are going to be linking to would need to turn off the "accept pings" for the post you were going to link to.

Doesn't that imply that the best possible setting would be to turn off accepting pings in general?

What advantage would there be in accepting pings if all it does is create a reciprocal link?

I've been doing trials on a few of my splogs, and so far I haven't been able to recreate either a trackback or a pingback, wether or not I put /trackback/ after the permalink, while putting the permalink into the blog body text. Maybe I haven't waited long enough for the trackback to show up.

The critical question is, how does one create a oneway link from one blog post to another?

Is using dofollow, and making comments, with akismet turned on, the best way to accomplish this on most blogs?

[Bill]

Well, I did get a trackback to show up, after a hour+ wait, using the /trackback/ appended to the permalink url.

[walrus]

Originally Posted by Bill

Doesn't that imply that the best possible setting would be to turn off accepting pings in general?

What advantage would there be in accepting pings if all it does is create a reciprocal link?

In mainstream, trackbacks and pings are probably the most common means of link exchange so it would be considered by them to be unethical.

If a group of adult bloggers decide they want to do some one way post linking, thats cool if everyone is in agreement but you would still risk pissing someone off who was not in the group but decided for some unknown reason to link to one of your posts.

Since thats a pretty remote possibility, probably not worth worrying about.

Originally Posted by Bill

I've been doing trials on a few of my splogs, and so far I haven't been able to recreate either a trackback or a pingback, wether or not I put /trackback/ after the permalink, while putting the permalink into the blog body text. Maybe I haven't waited long enough for the trackback to show up.

The critical question is, how does one create a oneway link from one blog post to another?

Is using dofollow, and making comments, with akismet turned on, the best way to accomplish this on most blogs?

Give your spam filter a check as almost all trackbacks tend to get tossed in with the spam.

If your dealing with splogs, I don't see any problem with disabling either ping-backs or trackbacks.

[Bill]

So far, it looks like simply putting a permalink link in a post DOESN'T create a trackback or a pingback.

At least it hasn't after a days wait.

Here's a short test post, made yesterday, I'm using as one of several tests for this.

http://www.amateurpagexxx.com/heres-...ast-night.html

This seems to produce the oneway link I want, at least with wp 2+.

So, it looks like my original concept, that of creating one way interior links by placing permalinks in posts, would work. On blogs running wp2, at least.