Porn MegaBucks says I'm a fraud

Lisa · 2007-09-09, 01:33 AM

My assumption may be wrong, but it's based on many years experience with this exact issue. Call it learned behaviour, if you will.

If this is not fraud on the part of the webmaster it would be the VERY FIRST TIME that it is not the case.

And as I have repeated ad nauseum, if that is not the case, I will apologise, but I was not prepared to put our processing at risk by allowing those memberships to be charged back.

I've asked Paycom to investigate as they are the ones who processed the transactions. I haven't asked Sheepguy to prove anything at all.

If someone wanted to just try out some stolen credit cards they could have done it on the site without a referrer code...the use of a referrer code immediately places the suspicion, rightly or wrongly, on the webmaster, because they are the one who stands to gain.

The transactions are clearly fraudulent, no question there. The fact that they were all done by one specific reseller connects them to him immediately, far more definitively that any IP or free email address does.

Toby · 2007-09-09, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisa

The fact that they were all done by one specific reseller connects them to him immediately, far more definitively that any IP or free email address does.

WRONG!!! It simply proves that the person that truly is responsible had visited the site recently via one of SheepGuy's reseller links and had a cookie set in their browser. At that point returning to the site directly would have still credited any sales to the saved referral code.

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Originally Posted by Lisa

...but I'm more than prepared to be proven wrong.

That sure looks to me like asking SheepGuy to prove you wrong.

This whole thing makes no sense. If a webmaster was going to go to the trouble to make fraudulent sales under their own referral code, why do so on a revshare program with a max sale of $29.95?

5 x $29.95 x 60% = $89.85. For an established webmaster, that's chump change.

SheepGuy · 2007-09-09, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Toby

5 x $29.95 x 60% = $89.85. For an established webmaster, that's chump change.

Exactly. Another reason why this is so infuriatingly stupid.
What kind of a moron would I be to risk 10 years of full-time self employment in a biz where your reputation is everything, for peanuts

Fuck, if I was that stupid I'd have to go out and get a real job, and I really couldn't handle the idea of a boss. I'm just not made for that anymore.

2007-09-09, 01:33 AM	#1
Lisa I'm going to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for TEN MINUTES Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 83	My assumption may be wrong, but it's based on many years experience with this exact issue. Call it learned behaviour, if you will. If this is not fraud on the part of the webmaster it would be the VERY FIRST TIME that it is not the case. And as I have repeated ad nauseum, if that is not the case, I will apologise, but I was not prepared to put our processing at risk by allowing those memberships to be charged back. I've asked Paycom to investigate as they are the ones who processed the transactions. I haven't asked Sheepguy to prove anything at all. If someone wanted to just try out some stolen credit cards they could have done it on the site without a referrer code...the use of a referrer code immediately places the suspicion, rightly or wrongly, on the webmaster, because they are the one who stands to gain. The transactions are clearly fraudulent, no question there. The fact that they were all done by one specific reseller connects them to him immediately, far more definitively that any IP or free email address does.