Ovulating Strippers make more money

[Bill]

They think it might be the scent, or possibly some sort of kinesthetic communication - an extra wiggle in the walk...

I've long suspected ovulating women have more power over men.

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In a particularly stimulating study, researchers have found that lap dancers--women who work in strip joints and, for cash, gyrate in the laps of seated men--earn more when they are in the fertile phase of their menstrual cycle. The finding suggests that women subtly signal when they are most fertile, although just how they do it is not clear.

Women, unlike many mammals, don't come into heat or estrus, a state of obvious fertility that attracts potential mates. Common wisdom has it that estrus was lost as humans evolved. The notion is that women evolved "concealed ovulation" along with around-the-month sexual receptivity the better to manipulate males by keeping them in the dark, says Geoffrey Miller, an evolutionary psychologist at the University of New Mexico in Albuquerque. But now Miller and colleagues have found evidence that a woman’s state of fertility may not be so secret after all.
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The numbers suggest that men can tell when a woman is most fertile, although the message seems to be conveyed by "subtle behavioral signals" that evade conscious detection, the authors say. They add that the study couldn't identify whether it is scent or other physical changes that cue the men in, but they don't think it's anything obvious such as type of dance moves or "conversational content."

Evolutionary psychologist Karl Grammer of the Ludwig Boltzmann Institute for Urban Ethology in Vienna says the result fits with his findings that it's possible to detect ovulation through the effect of raised levels of estrogens on the way women walk and dance. "It is highly possible that estrogen modulates motion abilities," says Grammer, in which case "it seems to be most likely that body motion--and not pheromones--is the information carrier."

http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi...ll/2007/1005/2

[dunc]

Now all we need is scratch and sniff photos taken in the fertile phase of their menstrual cycle available for the internet

[tigermom]

Do female webmasters sell more porn when they're ovulating?

[docholly]

Goddess Power!!

[Cleo]

Woman who live together do start menstruating together.

Isolate the pheromone, market gold digger perfume, profit.

[docholly]

Originally Posted by Cleo

Woman who live together do start menstruating together.

Isolate the pheromone, market gold digger perfume, profit.

Even women who work in offices together get their cycles changed. really interesting how that works.

[Mr Spock]

Reminds me of my bachelor party, the idiots organising cocked up and got some skank at the last minute who just happened to be in that phase of her cycle,unfortunately it started running down her leg to the amusement of all the guys. Fortunately I was too wasted to even notice.

I just thought I would share that with everyone over breakfast

[tigermom]

Hmmmm I think she was menstruating and not ovulating When you ovulate, you don't really get any eggs streaming anywhere lol, they just hang in there, way inside, waiting for Mr Right to come along

[Cleo]

I did watch a stripper shoot golf balls out of her pussy once.

[SirMoby]

I think this is one of those obvious things. Women do get more sexually active when they're ovulating. Some more on one side then the other. Men pick up on this are far more attracted to women during this time.

Of course if you believe this you have to understand that we're still animals.

[ecchi]

Originally Posted by SirMoby

I think this is one of those obvious things. Women do get more sexually active when they're ovulating. Some more on one side then the other. Men pick up on this are far more attracted to women during this time.

Yes, but this does not explain the bit of the research that Bill did not quote. Lap dancers and strippers get less tips (and lower tips) if they are on the pill (even though they don't advertise the fact).

[Bill]

Originally Posted by ecchi

Yes, but this does not explain the bit of the research that Bill did not quote. Lap dancers and strippers get less tips (and lower tips) if they are on the pill (even though they don't advertise the fact).

That is interesting - the faux pregnacy induced by the pill reduces male interest in exchanging value for 'possible' sexual intercourse...

[ecchi]

Originally Posted by Bill

That is interesting - the faux pregnacy induced by the pill reduces male interest in exchanging value for 'possible' sexual intercourse...

The part I find most interesting is that men can tell when women are on the pill. The idea that all sexual interest is driven by the subconscious urge to reproduce is an old one. But the idea that we have senses that can tell if it is possible for a woman to conceive is new. It interested me because it is further evidence for a thesis about human ability that I have been working on for some time.

[Simon]

Originally Posted by Cleo

I did watch a stripper shoot golf balls out of her pussy once.

The ones I knew who could do that eventually were told they had to use ping pong balls instead so that club patrons weren't injured and then told they couldn't do it at all since there was the risk of potentially spreading an STD and club owners didn't want the liability...blah blah politically correct blah.


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[ecchi]

Originally Posted by Simon

The ones I knew who could do that eventually were told they had to use ping pong balls instead so that club patrons weren't injured and then told they couldn't do it at all since there was the risk of potentially spreading an STD and club owners didn't want the liability...blah blah politically correct blah..

Shame, I would love to be a fly on the wall when some guy it trying to explain to his wife that he has not been unfaithful to her, and that he caught the syphilis from a ping-pong ball!

[Cleo]

Misleading message in a woman's walk

The sway of a woman's hips is not intended to impress men. So say researchers who have found that women have the sexiest walk during the part of the monthly cycle when they are least fertile. The finding implies that women use a variety of signals to advertise their fertility to men, using some signals to advertise when they are ovulating and others to conceal the fact.

Meghan Provost at Queen's University in Ontario, Canada, and colleagues dressed female volunteers in suits adorned with light markers placed along the joints and limbs. This allowed them to film each woman as she walked and then analyse her gait. They also collected saliva samples to find out whether each woman was in the more or less fertile phase of her menstrual cycle.

This showed a correlation between the way the women walked and their time of the month. The women who were fertile walked with smaller hip movements and with their knees closer together.

Similarly, when 40 men were shown the images of the women walking, they rated those in the less fertile part of their cycle as having the sexiest walks. "This was so surprising, I replicated the study with two more independent groups of men to make sure," says Provost, who will publish the results in the journal Archives of Sexual Behavior.

The results appear to run counter to other recent research, which has shown men responding more markedly towards women at ovulation. For example, researchers in the US have found that lap dancers earn more tips in their fertile period (New Scientist, 13 October, p 17).

However, Provost and her colleagues say there is in fact no contradiction between this research and other studies, as they are investigating two different kinds of signal. The previous research investigating men's response to fertile women focused on signals such as smells and facial expressions, which can only be detected at close range. That makes evolutionary sense, as it would benefit a woman to advertise her fertility to a man that she has decided is worth having children with and has therefore allowed to get close to her.

In contrast, men can pick up on the attractiveness of a woman's walk from long distance, and it can therefore act as an unwitting signal to less appealing males who she might not want to choose. So the advantage of having a less sexy walk around the time of ovulation becomes clear: it allows a woman to hide her fertile period from undesirable men who might take advantage of her at that time.

“Men pick up on the attractiveness of a woman's walk from long distance, so it may act as an unwitting signal”
"If women are trying to protect themselves from sexual assault at times of peak fertility, it would make sense for them to advertise attractiveness on a broad scale when they are not fertile," says Provost, who now works at Mount Saint Vincent University in Nova Scotia, Canada. To signal their fertility to people they choose to be with, it makes sense for women to use other means, she says.

"More and more research is being published indicating that ovulation perhaps should be considered unadvertised instead of concealed," she says.

Personally I think we are nothing more then rather clever monkeys.