How can I make the best use of sponsor RSS

[NY Jester]

Im not real up on blogging in fact Im only starting to dip my feet into it. But I see many sponsors have RSS feeds for promo tools..how exactly does that work, ad where do I place them..or better yet how can I promote them?

Thanks
J-

[Lemmy]

While there are quite a few free plugins for WP that will allow you to fill up your blog with sponsor feeds, I prefer Kaktusan's Blogs Automater. It's not that hard to set up (Kaktusan is one of the good guys and will help you if you get stuck). Once everything is working all you have to do is sit back and collect checks.

Seriously, 90% of sponsor feeds are crap and if you plan on setting up a fully automated blog you'll just be one among 1000s who all put up the same shit. As with everything else it's all about getting qualified traffic.

I've been dabbling with blogs for a couple of years now. I'm not making a lot of money off of them and traffic is down, so take my advice for what it's worth.

[LD]

Originally Posted by Lemmy

While there are quite a few free plugins for WP that will allow you to fill up your blog with sponsor feeds, I prefer Kaktusan's Blogs Automater. It's not that hard to set up (Kaktusan is one of the good guys and will help you if you get stuck). Once everything is working all you have to do is sit back and collect checks.

Seriously, 90% of sponsor feeds are crap and if you plan on setting up a fully automated blog you'll just be one among 1000s who all put up the same shit. As with everything else it's all about getting qualified traffic.

I've been dabbling with blogs for a couple of years now. I'm not making a lot of money off of them and traffic is down, so take my advice for what it's worth.

Yes, Lemmy you are right. You, Walrus and T Pat all helped me get hooked up with BA a while back. I've only got one blog for now, but couldn't imagine managing the feeds without it. I tried some of the free plugs with WP for rss...the ones I tried were seriously fucked up, or very limited. BA is one of the more useful things I've spent money on. I also just got Link Organizer up and running, it to is an amazing script.

I too am dissapointed in sponsor feeds. A picture and a text link...wtf?? I try to hand post a few entries, wish I had time to do it all by hand.

[walrus]

Jester, that is really an excellent question because there is unlimited numbers of ways you can use a sponsors RSS feed and I guess this post should move me to write a RSS tutorial. Soon, I promise.

Building an auto-updating blog is one of the possibilities. Finding hosted feeds that are really blog quality is a difficult feat in itself but the advice about blog automater is right on.

You can also build feed directories and social bookmark sites, although you would probably need to spend some time researching RSS formats before attempting either. (or read the promised RSS tutorial when I get the time to write it) The scripts for these follow the mainstream approach to how an RSS feed should be structured and don't always give the desired results when using adult feeds.

You can also add information from a sponsors feed to any website page. Lets say you have a hub with a Raven Riley page. I know Jayman Cash has a RSS feed for all the tour updates. You could build your page around the most recent feed item to show your visitor what the most recent update was as well as having links to freesites / galleries that you have built or are hosted.

If you sponsor offers FHG feeds, you could use those to update pages on your site as well.

Basicly, once you learn the ins and outs of RSS, you can use it to help keep fresh content on your websites or create websites completely from RSS.

[T Pat]

I'm going to give it to you guys straight.
I've been fucking with this as long as Lemmy.
There is nothing in the world I wanted more than to be able to slap a shitty sponsor fed blog up and move on to the next, collecting lots of checks along the way. Expect a 1/10,000 conversion ratio if your just going to throw shit against the wall and like Lemmy said blog traffic is down.
I've been building like crazy, I'm in the neighborhood of 200 keyword splogs, I've given up on "set it and forget it" I review and fix,edit,move,etc. all 200 3 times a day.
I plan on spending tomorrow getting refreshed on Gallery Scrapper because as much as I wanted the sponsors to do it all for me, I'm going to still have to write blog posts. Damn it am I the only person turned on by areolas, is it bad form to call a gay guy a fag or a homo. It's no problem getting feeds for keywords cunt, gash, snatch,pussy,vagina, ass,booty and butt, not a single post have I found for taint, damn it in my day we all talked about the taint cause that was crossing the line, getting to damned close to no mans land. I digress, I'll have to write some posts myself to have a daily updates and to teach todays youth about the taint.
I've created a full time job for myself and don't expect it to payoff for months.
The new blogger of 2007 I have the most respect for is Art Williams
One more thing if your really want a what the fuck moment read a morphing feed sometime

[tigermom]

Just wanted to add that not all RSS feeds are meant for blogs per se. You can use them for other stuff like fake TGP pages or whatever.

[T Pat]

Slept on this and want to add someone could use feeds (with some editing) for a new pay site review site or a new movie review site.
Something I put some real thought and a little research into is a camgirl site, (my motto for 2008 is no new projects) there's a huge variety of feeds in that niche, run with it Jester

[NY Jester]

I was hoping to see TPat and Walrus in this thread. I truly do try and follow what the two of you have to say on the subject of blogs and splogs. And I'll be looking forward to the tutorial Walrus.

I agree, that most sponsor feeds Ive seen are horrid..a shitty pic and one line text link. Is there any sponsors that use text rich feeds?

I honestly was thinking that they'd be best served for a feeder or feeders. Is it possible to set how often and how many posts are made from any given sponsor feed? FOr example, if I wanted to have the jayMan Cash fed update 2 times per week with only 2 posts each, is that possible? Or something like that..one post per week, from each sponsor or site? Also if a blog is set up for the feeds to be posted can you still hand submit along with them?

If I can think of anything else (which I have plenty) I'll post.

Thanks in advance guys

J-

[walrus]

Originally Posted by NY Jester

I agree, that most sponsor feeds Ive seen are horrid..a shitty pic and one line text link. Is there any sponsors that use text rich feeds?

Check out the site in my sig. It will give you a chance to preview most of the feeds that at least have some text. You can see how often the feed is updated, quantity of text and quality of text. It at least gives you a way to try before you buy...so to speak.

I intentionally left out those feeds that didn't have at least 250 characters. It's only about 75% complete.

Originally Posted by NY Jester

I honestly was thinking that they'd be best served for a feeder or feeders. Is it possible to set how often and how many posts are made from any given sponsor feed? FOr example, if I wanted to have the jayMan Cash fed update 2 times per week with only 2 posts each, is that possible? Or something like that..one post per week, from each sponsor or site? Also if a blog is set up for the feeds to be posted can you still hand submit along with them?

If I can think of anything else (which I have plenty) I'll post.

Thanks in advance guys

J-

The question is do you want to do your feeders in a "blog" type of environment. I would, if for no other reason than it would give you a chance to format the feed properly.

In this instance I'd have to say take a good look at Blog Organizer. It would give you the opportunity to read in the posts, schedule them the way you want and even allow for you to edit them if need be. You could either use the blog template system built into BO or post to a WP blog.

[NY Jester]

Thanks for the info Walrus, Ill be looking over the site you pointed me towards, and look at BO as well.

[T Pat]

You made me feel special J but I'll be straight with ya I learn from Walrus,Tigermom,Lemmy,Ronnie,Simon and others I can't think of right now, I just run my gator more than most
I had a chat with Kaktus today, the masters course he's taking right now is kicking his butt and sucking up most of his time.
He is going to do his best to have some improvements to BO done that Walrus and I recommended by the end of January.
I was the first person on this board to give him a shot like four years ago, used him for a dozen or more custom coding jobs and he never disappointed me, so I'm sure he will come through this time to.
I think there's going to be a bunch of serious bloggers that are going to switch over from wordpress to BO then

[walrus]

Originally Posted by T Pat

He is going to do his best to have some improvements to BO done that Walrus and I recommended by the end of January.

You came up with the recommendation, I just grabbed a shotgun and covered your back a little bit.

Originally Posted by T Pat

I was the first person on this board to give him a shot like four years ago, used him for a dozen or more custom coding jobs and he never disappointed me, so I'm sure he will come through this time to.
I think there's going to be a bunch of serious bloggers that are going to switch over from wordpress to BO then

I'm actually giving a lot of thought to throwing in the towel on sponsor feeds and getting back to really trying to blog. You know write shit that some people find entertaining and most others find totally offensive.

The Walrus Blog did great (and damn I miss it) and XXX Blog Maniac does pretty damn well for being a kinder / gentler blog than The Walrus Blog, especially when I update it regularly.

[NY Jester]

Pat, Im just grateful for the advice. Im sure it was a"group" effort and thats what I really enjoy here at GG&J that I dont always see on other boards with the exception of maybe EB. Im not afraid to ask questions that Im sure have been answered a million times, but I feel that I can get the advice I need or at least be pointed in that direction.

Kind of reminds me of the ole saying "dont follow me Im lost too"

Hahaha

J-

[LD]

Originally Posted by walrus

I'm actually giving a lot of thought to throwing in the towel on sponsor feeds and getting back to really trying to blog. You know write shit that some people find entertaining and most others find totally offensive.

I would like to do that...writing out your own entries is actually fun, and a creative outlet of sorts. I do think writing for a porn blog is actually more difficult that writing for other types of blogs. It takes a certain technique to write juicy sexy shit and get people horny and eager to read more, but if done right is quite powerful.

[ArtWilliams]

Thank you very much T Pat.

At first I thought it was one of those things that inserts everyone one's username into the thread! If I could only make my hardwork payoff with a sale a day I would be happy. I guess my problem is I spend time on my blog than most but it doesn't leave time for other adult projects. Taking the quality route, vs the shotgun approach of making a zillion sites, might be the "right thing to do" but it has yet to pay off. Having said that my unique visits now average over 1500+ a day so I think I am moving in the right direction.

Thank you again for your kind words.

--aw

Originally Posted by T Pat

I'm going to give it to you guys straight.
I've been fucking with this as long as Lemmy.
There is nothing in the world I wanted more than to be able to slap a shitty sponsor fed blog up and move on to the next, collecting lots of checks along the way. Expect a 1/10,000 conversion ratio if your just going to throw shit against the wall and like Lemmy said blog traffic is down.
I've been building like crazy, I'm in the neighborhood of 200 keyword splogs, I've given up on "set it and forget it" I review and fix,edit,move,etc. all 200 3 times a day.
I plan on spending tomorrow getting refreshed on Gallery Scrapper because as much as I wanted the sponsors to do it all for me, I'm going to still have to write blog posts. Damn it am I the only person turned on by areolas, is it bad form to call a gay guy a fag or a homo. It's no problem getting feeds for keywords cunt, gash, snatch,pussy,vagina, ass,booty and butt, not a single post have I found for taint, damn it in my day we all talked about the taint cause that was crossing the line, getting to damned close to no mans land. I digress, I'll have to write some posts myself to have a daily updates and to teach todays youth about the taint.
I've created a full time job for myself and don't expect it to payoff for months.
The new blogger of 2007 I have the most respect for is Art Williams
One more thing if your really want a what the fuck moment read a morphing feed sometime

[papagmp]

Get busy for a few days and I miss all the fun. I'm listening and learning.

I truly enjoy writing and have had fun writing for my blog - The more I write, the simpler it gets.

Again, I'm probably the least blog smart of the group here but thanks to TigerMom and others, I'm catching up.

I kept hearing that sponsor blogs suck and today was the first time I've had a chance to look at a handful of them, you're right! Most suck!

The word count of 250 was nice to read - never gave much thought to the exact count but tried to write complete a thought or paragraph.

Just went back and counted and I'm at an average of 238 per post. Guess I'd get deleted I'll go back and edit a bit before we go public.

On the subject of morphing feeds; is it because folks overdo the morphing, because they have4 no understanding of the language or what? In concept it should work, I'd like to see some of those feeds - just to twist my brain.

Sure I'll have more but I've been awake for over 30 hours and my mind id running on caffeine.....

[walrus]

Originally Posted by papagmp

The word count of 250 was nice to read - never gave much thought to the exact count but tried to write complete a thought or paragraph.

Just went back and counted and I'm at an average of 238 per post. Guess I'd get deleted I'll go back and edit a bit before we go public.

On the subject of morphing feeds; is it because folks overdo the morphing, because they have4 no understanding of the language or what? In concept it should work, I'd like to see some of those feeds - just to twist my brain.

Sure I'll have more but I've been awake for over 30 hours and my mind id running on caffeine.....

It was 250 characters not words so your fine and that number is not a set in stone number for me.

You don't have to be verbose to have a great post.

As far as morphing, it tends to work ok if the original message is morphed once. After that the original meaning of the post tends to get lost. It also depends on the complexity of the sentences and how large your thesaurous is.

Also remember many words have different meanings all dependant of sentence structure. Fucking can be a verb, an adjective or etc.

If a sponsor can't figure out that a shemale giving a blow job is a different niche than a woman giving one, how the hell are they ever going to be smart enough to write decent blog posts that work within the confines of a morphing script.

Besides, to me its just not worth it. Morphing feeds have only one purpose...to trick the SE's and one thing the SE's have shown is that, given time, they will figure it out and when they do, it's a stiff price to pay.

[papagmp]

Originally Posted by walrus

If a sponsor can't figure out that a shemale giving a blow job is a different niche than a woman giving one, how the hell are they ever going to be smart enough to write decent blog posts that work within the confines of a morphing script.

I can't speak for every sponsor - but if it were me getting the blow job, I'd make damn sure which "niche" was on it's knees in front of me.

[ronnie]

Last I looked, I agree with every one else, sponsor feeds suck. Only one I like and use is kinky and I think it's one of Walrus's favorites also, or was. Sponsors have no problem putting up tons of time an money for galleries, but seems few put many resources into feed. It's been a while since I checked out many sponsor feeds, so I could be wrong.

Even if they do improve, isn't there going to be duplicate content problems? If not now, later on for sure. Some people will get bumped out of the SE's, probably most? Only need one copy.

I would love to have 100 blogs running on auto, but I don't think it's a good long term investment. It's an incredible idea and very enticing, very. But the SE's wouldn't let in that much duplication. Unless BO or software like it, does things I don't know about. Seems the only way is if you paid people to write for you on a regular basis and that would be a long term pay off at best.

Looks like It all goes back to writing or creating your own content, but damn that takes time and thought. Then again, there would be no duplication. It's your content, it's totally unique. I wish all I had to do was writing my blogs, just don't have the time.

I still believe a handful of personal, hand written blogs could out do numerous automated blogs, but don't have the proof. Would be an interesting test.

There are a couple things I've learned, actually from mainstream that might help. I've been working into mainstream marketing, mostly info products and some of what I learned can help with adult blogs.

I've created a number of information products, e-books. What I've learned was how to write. Not there totally yet, but getting close. How you write is very important for creating information products and article marketing. To do well you need to write very quickly. You need to create info products and articles quickly so you can get them out there working for you as soon as possible.

Long story short, when you write, write and do not correct your writing, get it all out there. Once your done, then and only then go back and correct your mistakes. Some people even say to turn your monitor off and write, you won't be tempted to fix mistakes. You could even do your posts in say Word and paste them into your blog, that way you have some help with spelling and grammar, I know I need it. With a good writing skill down, you could write more posts in a day, more blogs, ect, ect.

I think the other problem is, coming up with ideas, or what to write about. Instead of sitting at the keyboard trying to come up with idea's, do it ahead of time, make lists, or at the least post titles you could expand on.

You could also get ideas from other blogs. No, don't steal, just get ideas. I think most of us know of great blogs or great content type sites. Watch tv, Springer is goldmine for adult ideas when you think about it, what about the rag mags? Make up stuff, who's going to know? The industry is probably 98% fantasy anyways, why not do your own?

I'd love to have 200 blogs on auto pilot, but think we know it probably won't work, seems some in this thread have already seen that, and how long would it last anyways?

It's not just the SE aspect, but also gaining readers that actually want to come back and read your blog? We know one of the things SE's use to gauge our sites is how long the reader stays on our sites, the longer the better. Least G does with the tool bar, Alexa probably the same.

If I were starting in adult from scratch, I would start with blogs I wrote the posts for. Other models are proving to be less than SE worthy these days, such as Links Lists.

Sorry to ramble on and side track the thread. Guess just giving some things to think about before spending to much time and money on other ideas.

[walrus]

I agree with ronnie's long winded post....if you are looking to make a killing from set and forget RSS feed blogs, you are only fooling yourself.

Also, I'm sure I've said this already but I'll say it again. There is more ways than just building RSS fed blogs to market sponsor feeds.

Does that mean you shouldn't build RSS fed blogs...of course not but your if you think that those will be able to survive from SE traffic so you had better be thinking of other means to drive traffic to them.

[NY Jester]

Very NewB question here...is it possible to have a "set and forget" type of feed in place as well as hand submit a couple times a week along with it?

[ronnie]

Originally Posted by NY Jester

Very NewB question here...is it possible to have a "set and forget" type of feed in place as well as hand submit a couple times a week along with it?

<short-winded>

Sure would be better, maybe make the difference. But wouldn't you still have sponsor posts that are duplicates? Seems Walrus has better ideas.

The set it and forget it idea would have worked a couple years back when there were directories where rank was determined by newest posts. Some folks took advantage.

</short-winded>

[walrus]

Originally Posted by NY Jester

Very NewB question here...is it possible to have a "set and forget" type of feed in place as well as hand submit a couple times a week along with it?

Theoretically, yes. No matter what aggregator you used you could have it posting with every feed update and then manually go in and add a post when you were in a creative mood.

Originally Posted by ronnie

<short-winded>

Sure would be better, maybe make the difference. But wouldn't you still have sponsor posts that are duplicates? Seems Walrus has better ideas.

The set it and forget it idea would have worked a couple years back when there were directories where rank was determined by newest posts. Some folks took advantage.

</short-winded>

Correct, you still would have a bunch of posts that were duplicates mixed in with a few original posts. I never believed that the duplicate content penalty was really a big deal. It just meant that after the big G found X number of duplicates it would move the rest into supplimental. But since G no longer has a supplimental, I would assume the most trusted sites (the X number) would be ok and all the others would head somewhere near the 1000 page or so.

Since I haven't tested my ideas yet, I couldn't tell you if they were a |goodidea or if people would at them. Perhaps more details will be forthcoming once I get a little further along the development curve but I will say, if I'm wrong I will have wasted a whole lot of time.

[ronnie]

<mid-winded>

Another thought, how many quality posts could a person write per day, if they wrote correctly?

I don't think it would be a far stretch that one could create 10 quality posts a day. Could daily update 10 blogs, or 20 blogs every other day, or down the line.

What does a person spending making and creating quality free sites from scratch, I'm thinking most do about 1 site a day.

Seems you could get quite a bit further with 10 or more blogs than a free site a day, income wise.

These guessimations based on some one working full time.

Maybe I was lucky, but last blog I started, wasn't hard to get it up to 500 hits a day and I don't keep it up very well. I should sell it.

But 10 blogs at 500 hits a day, 5k a day, not to shabby. Course income would depend if focused niche and which ones.

Just some thoughts...

</mid-winded>

[ronnie]

As far as duplicate filters. There has to be something, or the results would be full of the same content. no? You know G and the others know people automate, and you know they don't want it, it would mean crap results for surfers.

Naturally my two cents.