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Old 2008-01-10, 10:53 AM   #1
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I suppose there's a moral to this, if you don't want to get killed, don't join the army.

As it is, give any real soldier an oppurtunity to go to war and they'll jump at the chance.

It's the armchair faggots sat at home that make all the fuss about it.
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Old 2008-01-10, 12:32 PM   #2
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I suppose there's a moral to this, if you don't want to get killed, don't join the army.

As it is, give any real soldier an oppurtunity to go to war and they'll jump at the chance.

It's the armchair faggots sat at home that make all the fuss about it.
I disagree - I considered myself a "real soldier" and I never "jumped at the chance" to go to war. Yes, I went, and did it without complaining, but to assume all real soldiers are war mongers is way off.

I served for a few reasons:

1. It was a good job that let me travel and get my education at the same time (I was a communications system tech so most of my time was spent in facilities not much different than those of AT&T - however, I did see enough field duty to know what it's like)
2. I agree in concept that citizens have the right and responsibility to protect a way of life.
3. I love my country.
4. I had to prove to my dad that I had what it took.... (It's a long story)

I never wished that anyone would ever have to die - but I accepted it as a fact of life and a potential part of the job - even if that meant I might be put in harms way. Thankfully, I survived all of those encounters.
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Old 2008-01-10, 03:27 PM   #3
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I disagree - I considered myself a "real soldier" and I never "jumped at the chance" to go to war. Yes, I went, and did it without complaining, but to assume all real soldiers are war mongers is way off.

I served for a few reasons:

1. It was a good job that let me travel and get my education at the same time (I was a communications system tech so most of my time was spent in facilities not much different than those of AT&T - however, I did see enough field duty to know what it's like)
2. I agree in concept that citizens have the right and responsibility to protect a way of life.
3. I love my country.
4. I had to prove to my dad that I had what it took.... (It's a long story)

I never wished that anyone would ever have to die - but I accepted it as a fact of life and a potential part of the job - even if that meant I might be put in harms way. Thankfully, I survived all of those encounters.

Well no not war mongers but isn't war what we all trained for?
What i was saying is if you're in the military then war is going to be a possibility and if you take a sniper round between the eyes then that's the risk that goes with the job.
Obviously the only way to make sure that doesn't happen is to consider other jobs.
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Old 2008-01-10, 05:26 PM   #4
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Well no not war mongers but isn't war what we all trained for?
I went dancing a lot.
My biggest goal upon entering the army was to end up in Germany as my recruiter has promised. Apparently, in recruiter speak, Germany = Texas. I never really asked the army why I was being trained in all that silly shooting stuff and what-not. I spent most of time thinking about drinking and dancing and getting rejected by hot civilians.
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Old 2008-01-10, 06:05 PM   #5
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I went dancing a lot.
My biggest goal upon entering the army was to end up in Germany as my recruiter has promised. Apparently, in recruiter speak, Germany = Texas. I never really asked the army why I was being trained in all that silly shooting stuff and what-not. I spent most of time thinking about drinking and dancing and getting rejected by hot civilians.
Not sure on the relation to Texas as i don't think germans marry their cousins. lol

You'd of definately woken up to a few hangovers though, not to mention alot of hairy german women.

I knew full well what i'd be doing and my first posting was Belfast, i certainly wouldn't of taken in what a recruiter told me though.
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I went dancing a lot.
My biggest goal upon entering the army was to end up in Germany as my recruiter has promised. Apparently, in recruiter speak, Germany = Texas. I never really asked the army why I was being trained in all that silly shooting stuff and what-not. I spent most of time thinking about drinking and dancing and getting rejected by hot civilians.
And I asked for Texas and got Germany - 13 years
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Old 2008-01-10, 06:41 PM   #7
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Well no not war mongers but isn't war what we all trained for?
What i was saying is if you're in the military then war is going to be a possibility and if you take a sniper round between the eyes then that's the risk that goes with the job.
Obviously the only way to make sure that doesn't happen is to consider other jobs.
Maybe I'm a warmongerer, maybe not. Prior to Sept 11th I never once considered joining the military. In contrast, I was a pot smoking hippie and very much anti-war and anti-military up until that point. I joined the infantry because I don't want to have to tell my kids someday that when our country was in one of it's most dire moment's, daddy spent his time smoking pot and watching it all unfold on CNN.

While, I disagree with how some things have been handled by our government, I know through personal experience that there is a defining difference between the people fighting against us and the people who fight for us. They kill innocents with no regard for human life, whereas MOST (yes, there are some exceptions) of us just want to protect innocent people. Having said that, I still believe I'm a peaceful person. But I am also Irish, which means that when I'm backed in a corner I'll definitely put up a fight. When you're dealing with people who are not only willing to kill innocent people, but also blow themselves up in the process, the only way to talk some sense into them is to skull fuck them with an M4. |raygun|

But after a while politics, family, ideals... all that shit goes right out the window and you're left with one thing. Watch out for your buddies and trust your buddies will watch out for you. When it comes down to it, that's all that really matters.
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