I'm As Mad As Hell, And I'm Not Going To Take This Anymore!

[justbondage]

Is it the sponsor who selects them, or is it the affiliate who requests them? I mean I have never seen an option to "allow cross sales" or anything, but then I had only heard about these before in this post.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by justbondage

Is it the sponsor who selects them, or is it the affiliate who requests them? I mean I have never seen an option to "allow cross sales" or anything, but then I had only heard about these before in this post.

Strictly sponsor choice.

There are a very few sponsors that do pay revshare percentages on cross sales, but they are very few. 99.44% of the time they are of absolutely no benefit to the affiliate.

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by DangerDave

Hello to all the users of NATS

Don't you really mean "Hello to all users of programs that process thru Epoch"? Hell, why blame either of them? It's the affiliate program's OPTION to use the cross sales. Yes, Epoch offers that OPTION and yes Nats makes that OPTION easy to use, but it's still an OPTION.

Originally Posted by Simon

...Some webmasters may not even be aware of the join forms on some tours that have these pre-checked cross sales on them...

Some webmasters should do their homework before they sign up or start to promote a sponsor.

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You guys are talking as if this is some new thing. Epoch has been offering cross sales for YEARS! I can remember when Jim worked at Flash Cash, once of his jobs was to try & find programs to do cross sales with.

As far as the surfer joining a site, if they are dumb enough to put their CC info in there without reading the entire page - and there's not a lot of text on the example Toby posted - who's fault is that?

Everyone that reviews complains that the submitters need to learn how to read, yet those same people often support surfers that need to learn how to read.

I'm thinking it's time for Jim to get back in the game & assist in this thread, since I know he's had 1st hand experience with the affiliate side of cross-sales.

[Mr. Blue]

Originally Posted by Greenie

As far as the surfer joining a site, if they are dumb enough to put their CC info in there without reading the entire page - and there's not a lot of text on the example Toby posted - who's fault is that?

Everyone that reviews complains that the submitters need to learn how to read, yet those same people often support surfers that need to learn how to read.

Do the Russians still hate you? lol. What I mean to say whether you're right or wrong about it's the responsibility of the individual, it's how the individual perceives the situation that matters most.

So when you ban someone from your Link List do they go, "Gee, GreenGuy was completely right, it's all my fault and I'll suffer the consequences of not reading" or will they go, "GreenGuy is a dick"

9 out of 10 banned people would probably go with the Dick line, even if you were completely right. When I reject galleries or ban people, the submitter that screwed up thinks I'm 100% wrong. Whatever, in that situation you can give them the one finger salute because there's 500 more people waiting to replace that one.

However, it's not applicable when it comes to potential customers. Whether it's their responsibility or not, how are they going to feel when they get an $80 bill for a trial membership that they thought they were buying. You can say what's right and wrong till the cows come home, that surfer / customer, is going to think he's right and got ripped off. Unfortunately paying porn customers in this age of free porn on the net, is not so easily replaced.