I'm As Mad As Hell, And I'm Not Going To Take This Anymore!

[Toby]

So deceptively banging the surfers credit card for $80 or more when he thinks he's buying a $1 trial is just business?

Bullshit! If that's what's necessary to run a PPS program then the payouts are too high, and retention isn't what it should be.

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Toby

So deceptively banging the surfers credit card for $80 or more when he thinks he's buying a $1 trial is just business?...

It's not deceptive. It's right there on the page! Assuming you didn't shrink it, that's a 600x800 page - or the size of a standard picture. You're telling me that it's deceptive because the person entering their credit card info did not see/read a 600x800 page?

Crap like Zango is deceptive. This is nothing.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Greenie

It's not deceptive. It's right there on the page! Assuming you didn't shrink it, that's a 600x800 page

I did crop the page to make it more generic. When viewing the actually page at 1024x768 the bottom of the visible screen falls just below the cc logos.

Take off your webmaster hat for just a minute and try to think like a porn surfer with a stiff dick. It would not be difficult to think the page ended below the logos.

While all the info may technically be there on the page (otherwise it would be fraud and subject to legal action) it's pretty damn obvious to most that the sponsors are trying to slide it by unnoticed. If they weren't it would be above the submit button where it could not be missed.

Abusing the surfer financially so that he never buys porn online again is BAD business.

[SykkBoy]

Originally Posted by Toby

I did crop the page to make it more generic. When viewing the actually page at 1024x768 the bottom of the visible screen falls just below the cc logos.

Take off your webmaster hat for just a minute and try to think like a porn surfer with a stiff dick. It would not be difficult to think the page ended below the logos.

While all the info may technically be there on the page (otherwise it would be fraud and subject to legal action) it's pretty damn obvious to most that the sponsors are trying to slide it by unnoticed. If they weren't it would be above the submit button where it could not be missed.

Abusing the surfer financially so that he never buys porn online again is BAD business.

He also receives emails concerning the signups....shouldn't he read his email too? I know I would if I just purchased something.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by SykkBoy

He also receives emails concerning the signups....shouldn't he read his email too? I know I would if I just purchased something.

How much spam do you get in your InBox daily? How much is eaten by spam filters? If he's not aware he just signed up for two additional sites, how likely is he to not notice two emails he isn't expecting? Keep in mind that most of the time these will be coming from entirely separate entities, not from the original site he actually intended to join.

Try to justify the practice any way you want, but tricking the surfer is wrong.