Fuck Wordpress

[awgPablo]

There are some very key modules & workflows that help a lot with putting sites together. Primarily I've found Views to be indispensable, but it's not overly simple, IMO. To introduce it, basically you can take anything in the database and display it roughly any way you want, creating "views" of your data fields in about any configuration you want. Combined with very flexible theming, you can create sweet-looking pages (or posts or "nodes", etc.) that are quite custom.

I'm currently working on pulling in feeds and stripping out elements to display in a custom format... might not be able to go to far with this concept in the immediate future, since I have a mainstream client starting to bug me about doing a Flash game for him. I swear it's taken me forever to get my adult domains working for me again!

[Bill]

I wonder what I should make of a recent resonably long thread over at the zoo that seems to be a paen to wordpress, expecially the latest version, and repeatedly bashes drupal?

No mention of wordpress limitations in the thread, at least so far. Since I'm hunting for more analysis of this auggested wordpress problem, I find that lack of worries about wordpress interesting.

Somone mentions an adult site built with joomla, sounds like it might be a surfer board kinda thing - which means what, a shitload of stolen content and bandwidth?

I've never personally installed joomla - I probably should, just to see how it works - the frequent claim being that the joomla bbs package is way better than drupal - and since the drupal bbs systems I've seen didn't thrill me, WAY worse than vbulletin, I can believe that joomlas bbs is better.

[Chffr]

Originally Posted by Bill

I wonder what I should make of a recent resonably long thread over at the zoo that seems to be a paen to wordpress, expecially the latest version, and repeatedly bashes drupal?

The bashing probably comes from a frustration over a lack of documentation. The drupal.org documentation desperately needs a glossary. All the documentation language is written at the intermediate to advanced level thereby leaving noobs facing a steep learning curve. If one is patient and focuses on one issue at a time and is adept at google searching for confusing terminology Drupal is a fantastic choice.

Most people just don't want to go through the initiation cause their in such a big damn hurry. Drupal is more like the tortoise than the hare. So if you choose to go down the path of the Drupal you can be certain it is one that will serve you well for a very long time. You should be aware though that it is not going to be "easy". You're going to have to face a period of familiarization before you start to sing its praises.

I've built 2 mainstream sites and am currently working on my 1st adult content site using Drupal. The first one was HELL. I won't lie to you about that. The second one though was much better. And this third one is coming together like gangbusters. Individual results may vary. I've worked on these sites many a night into the dawnlight hours. All totalled I've spent probably 300 hours working with Drupal.

My advice if you decide to go with Drupal is:

1. use the most stable build(6.9 i think)
2. get core setup complete before loading any modules
3. find some themes, pick one, configure it to your liking,
4. load only one module at a time, configure the module before loading another module
5. rinse repeat.

It helps also to have goals/objectives to shoot for when choosing modules. That way you're building your site with a specific functionality in mind from the start. Doing this keeps you from wasting time installing and configuring modules you don't need or don't use.

I'm open to Drupal questions and will help wherever I am able.