BDSM....!...?

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Originally Posted by grandmascrotum

So you don't like vibrators because it gives the woman pleasure? You don't want to see the woman having *any* pleasure from the BDSM experience whatsoever?

That sounds like torture to me, not BDSM.

well no "You don't want to see the woman having *any*" cause I am paying to see the woman in pain = something real...

+ by saying "whatsoever" you are changing my topic...