Saying hello and getting to know...

[UglyDaz]

Originally Posted by HowlingWulf

I think you're putting the cart before the horse trying to open a paysite without knowing how it all works. Trying promoting other sites first with galleries/freesites/blogs/etc and seeing how they do things. Also you could try selling your exclusive content via a broker like club-xstream.com

I'm not saying I know everything but I do think I'm reasonably competent enough to run a website. To be fair, I know people running blogs and promoting other people's sites and what they do would take as much learning to become an 'expert' as what I'm already doing. The assumption that running an affiliate site is easier than any other site is just plain wrong in my opinion.
Also I see webmasters running sites all day long without any sense as to what constitutes decent content or quality photography so I think it's fair that if they clearly struggle in the area of content, I should be allowed to at least ask questions (because that's all I said) in my area of deficit.
On the subject of webmastery versus content... it always amazes me that some people still imagine that a fantastically built site with crap content (and I know of many like this) will make a customer happy whilst a basic site with decent content will somehow put customers off!???
I wouldn't eat in a flash restaurant that served dismal food - would you? And I like the look of some Ferraris but if mine had wooden seats in it I'd soon get rid.
I refute the idea that an expert in computers and the net necessarily has the edge over content providers in this game. Where would you be without dumb 'toggers who actually spent their lives learning how to make what others then resell?

[HowlingWulf]

Originally Posted by UglyDaz

I'm not saying I know everything but I do think I'm reasonably competent enough to run a website. To be fair, I know people running blogs and promoting other people's sites and what they do would take as much learning to become an 'expert' as what I'm already doing. The assumption that running an affiliate site is easier than any other site is just plain wrong in my opinion.
Also I see webmasters running sites all day long without any sense as to what constitutes decent content or quality photography so I think it's fair that if they clearly struggle in the area of content, I should be allowed to at least ask questions (because that's all I said) in my area of deficit.
On the subject of webmastery versus content... it always amazes me that some people still imagine that a fantastically built site with crap content (and I know of many like this) will make a customer happy whilst a basic site with decent content will somehow put customers off!???
I wouldn't eat in a flash restaurant that served dismal food - would you? And I like the look of some Ferraris but if mine had wooden seats in it I'd soon get rid.
I refute the idea that an expert in computers and the net necessarily has the edge over content providers in this game. Where would you be without dumb 'toggers who actually spent their lives learning how to make what others then resell?

Okay one thing that helps in this biz is a thick skin. No matter how 'perfect' a job you do - at anything online - some people will knock it.

I was merely suggesting you become an affiliate and understand how the affiliate/paysite relationship works. I think many of the people that open a site before understanding how to get traffic are gone within a year or two. This is generic advice for anyone, not just you. It's rather sad many affiliate managers don't know how affiliates promote their sites via blogs, tgps, and freesites. Affiliates don't want to tell you what they want because you should know already.

You mention you're competent enough to run a website. That's great. Now the real key is making good money with it. Anyone can 'make a wage'.

I also suggested you could sell your photography to content brokers to make extra money as well for the same work. Why are you flipping out?

I like your analogy about eating in a flashy restaurant that serves dismal food. Who HASN'T done that? That's because we didn't know the food was bad before we ate it. Usually we were sold by the flash (paysite tour) before we learned about the food (members area). If the food is bad, we won't be back (rebills).