Tube site conversion ratio question

mjgcny · 2009-12-11, 03:33 PM

Anyone that has a tube site here, have you had good or bad conversion ratios to date with the sponsors content being used, since going live with your sites? Or have you seen a lot of traffic that was/is unproductive so far?

The traffic to my tube has been really good, but the conversion ratios suck!

Max@PuZcash.com · 2009-12-12, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mjgcny

The traffic to my tube has been really good, but the conversion ratios suck!

I'm sure that's 'normal' for tube sites...

Fonz · 2009-12-12, 08:01 AM

Why would a surfer pay for porn if he can watch hours and hours for free on your tube?

ed_banger · 2009-12-12, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Fonz

Why would a surfer pay for porn if he can watch hours and hours for free on your tube?

Within 4 days of putting up a tube site, I got a sale, and that was just with less than 100 uniques per day to the tube.

mjgcny · 2009-12-12, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ed_banger

Within 4 days of putting up a tube site, I got a sale, and that was just with less than 100 uniques per day to the tube.

1 sale is better than nothing, but there's still hope.

Yeah Fonz, too true, why pay for clear quality when you can jack for free to all that fine fuzzy low quality porn out there

I never expected any miracles from the start when I put up a tube...right now tho, I'm just thinking about putting one up at a dedicated domain and take it from there.

Thanks for the input guys.

ArtWilliams · 2010-01-20, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mjgcny

Yeah Fonz, too true, why pay for clear quality when you can jack for free to all that fine fuzzy low quality porn out there

Do you think people are watching fucking Citizen Kane? They are just trying to rub one out. I am sure that SD video is fine for the thieving cheap bastards out there!

Useless · 2010-01-20, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by artwilliams

Do you think people are watching fucking Citizen Kane? They are just trying to rub one out. I am sure that SD video is fine for the thieving cheap bastards out there!

Exactly, except there are a lot of big tubes that are completely legit, or slowly becoming legit, so they aren't all thieving bastards.

Quite frankly, anyone who doesn't understand tubes at this point, hasn't taken the time to enjoy them. From the average surfer's point-of-view, they're really quite wonderful. There are a couple that I absolutely adore.

I said it months ago, and I'll say it again. Competing with the tubes is about competing with them in the search engines. If you aren't working your SE game and purchasing, yes PURCHASING, a ton of inbound keyword links, then you aren't competing. Some of the early tubes may have been built by thieves, but they were smart thieves. They redesigned the playing field. Play it their way or pass the ball to someone who will.

burntfilm · 2009-12-12, 04:42 PM

Tube Sites are, broadly speaking, "Sharing" sites - not "Selling" sites. Make a site, give samples, write sales text. Make sales.

Create a huge archive of free movies with no sales text - and share your free porn collection. Show me otherwise.

MadCat · 2009-12-12, 07:05 PM

Tube sites can do okay as long as they're very niche specific -- treat it like an MGP and you will get some results out of it. Ratios still suck though

Tommy · 2009-12-14, 09:13 AM

tube sites are the tgp's of 8 to 9 years ago

everything that was said in this thread was said about tgps 8 years ago

flip.green · 2009-12-14, 02:36 PM

Legal tubes make money if done carefully, make sure you have good writing to match up with your videos and go with a niche you know. This works for us anyway.

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Originally Posted by Tommy

tube sites are the tgp's of 8 to 9 years ago

everything that was said in this thread was said about tgps 8 years ago

So true, and TGP's are still around everyone said they would kill link lists and free sites which are still aroud too. Makes me wonder how much technology changing really has to do with the habbits of surfers changing.

Papa · 2010-02-03, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Tommy

tube sites are the tgp's of 8 to 9 years ago

everything that was said in this thread was said about tgps 8 years ago

NOT !

Tgps were teazers with low quality stuff versus full lenght HD now.

Why buy ? Now you tell me ! People will settle for less as it's free.

Let's say the government gives away brand new cheap cars. Selling at 8k each. Guess what kind of cars you'll see everywhere ? Of course, guys willing to drive their Mercedez and Ferrari's will continue to do so but the majority of people will drive the damn cheap car as it's FREE !

abatis · 2010-02-08, 05:44 PM

someone said it well earlier. water is free out of a tap yet bottles of water are one of the best selling beverages at say a gas station...etc.....

paying customers are that way because of many reasons other than cost vs. free. things like security etc...come into play.

-abatis

Far-L · 2010-02-11, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa

NOT !

Tgps were teazers with low quality stuff versus full lenght HD now.

Why buy ? Now you tell me ! People will settle for less as it's free.

Let's say the government gives away brand new cheap cars. Selling at 8k each. Guess what kind of cars you'll see everywhere ? Of course, guys willing to drive their Mercedez and Ferrari's will continue to do so but the majority of people will drive the damn cheap car as it's FREE !

No offense, but I don't think that is a great example so let me suggest one that I think works better. Explain why people pay for cable channels when they get tons of free programming on CBS, NBC, ABC?

Even when they can see the same show that once cost money on cable...

And those cable companies buy ads on free tv...

For us, the people that join our site realize there is more to it than just tons of videos. For many other paysites, it looks great on the outside but when the customer gets inside they realize that they have already seen it all for free and there is nothing else compelling to pay for. So even though you may see the same movie on HBO that eventually plays on ABC, you were able to see it sooner and uncut with no intrusive commercials on HBO first and that is a premium that many will pay for in spite of a "free" option.

ArtWilliams · 2009-12-14, 09:40 AM

As long as you're not giving stealing and re-distributing full length clips, "it is what it is".

Saw a legal tube the other day using a trading script!

Simon · 2009-12-14, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Tommy

tube sites are the tgp's of 8 to 9 years ago
everything that was said in this thread was said about tgps 8 years ago

So... when is Tommy's going to become a tube site?

LeRoy · 2009-12-14, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Simon

So... when is Tommy's going to become a tube site?

Stirring the pot ehh

Senator_x · 2009-12-14, 11:31 PM

My tube/blog does extremely well with long movies. Upsell the high definition videos.

Daniel_webcams · 2009-12-22, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Senator_x

My tube/blog does extremely well with long movies. Upsell the high definition videos.

Usually tubes are doing well with up-selling long movies

HowlingWulf · 2009-12-15, 10:57 AM

HanksGalleries now lists full tube movies from other sites

mjgcny · 2009-12-16, 06:47 PM

Hell, I decided to put up another blog and put effort into that. The blogs have been producing more conversions for me than a tube.

Senator_x · 2009-12-19, 12:01 AM

MGPs have just grown up.

whitey · 2009-12-20, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mjgcny

Anyone that has a tube site here, have you had good or bad conversion ratios to date with the sponsors content being used, since going live with your sites? Or have you seen a lot of traffic that was/is unproductive so far?

The traffic to my tube has been really good, but the conversion ratios suck!

I have looked at buying about 50 different tube sites. I found the average conversion to be about .25 per 1,000 unique visitors, which makes the average barely profitable at todays conversions. The range, however, was .06 to .68. At .35 and above, many of the tubes were quite profitable. Below, .20, they actually lost money, normally to the surprise of the webmaster. I think some of the top tubes with much viral traffic do significantly better, which is why they are not for sale...LOL

I have also looked a vid dumps that seem to average around .80 per 1000 visitors and are normally very profitable.

As a comparison, my blog/SEO network converts at right around $7 per 1000 unique visitors, which I know is quite good. But, it takes alot of effort to get each of those 1000 visitors.

mjgcny · 2009-12-20, 09:12 PM

As a comparison, my blog/SEO network converts at right around $7 per 1000 unique visitors, which I know is quite good. But, it takes alot of effort to get each of those 1000 visitors.

That's one of the reasons I decided to just go with blogs more than tubes...there's is and always will be that dedicated surfer group(s) who want substance rather than the "quick fix" tube sites deliver. I'm sure that will change in time. It always does.

Anything worth doing will take a lot of effort, but it will pay off in the end.

pornsprite · 2009-12-24, 03:16 PM

I will relate, a phrase, I read from another site. This sentence was like a kick in the nuts to me, when I first read it. "Tube Sites are great for selling everything except porn". This quote came from a old timer in this industry who is converting his sites with hundreds of thousands of uniques a day, over to Tube Sites.

I am relating that sentence out of context of course. This same guy painted a picture of a porn future, with many tube sites selling many products, not just porn. In his theory porn content producers, would do well selling their content, to site owners and surfers alike, thought affiliate tube sites.

Anyway, this is one possible outcome, a win win for everyone, and we lived happily ever after. I was always going to diversify, my sites and not just count on blogs, but have tgps, mpgs, and tube sites.

2009-12-11, 03:33 PM	#1
mjgcny I'm going to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for TEN MINUTES Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 88	Tube site conversion ratio question Anyone that has a tube site here, have you had good or bad conversion ratios to date with the sponsors content being used, since going live with your sites? Or have you seen a lot of traffic that was/is unproductive so far? The traffic to my tube has been really good, but the conversion ratios suck! __________________ Adult Hot Files Email Me AEBN converts! Try it out for yourself.

2009-12-12, 08:01 AM	#3
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2009-12-12, 04:42 PM	#8
burntfilm Heh Heh Heh! Lisa! Vampires are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos! Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 73	Tube Sites are, broadly speaking, "Sharing" sites - not "Selling" sites. Make a site, give samples, write sales text. Make sales. Create a huge archive of free movies with no sales text - and share your free porn collection. Show me otherwise. __________________ Burntcash - Ivy Black

2009-12-12, 07:05 PM	#9
MadCat If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 247	Tube sites can do okay as long as they're very niche specific -- treat it like an MGP and you will get some results out of it. Ratios still suck though __________________ What's blue and not heavy?

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2009-12-14, 09:40 AM	#15
ArtWilliams You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 6,244	As long as you're not giving stealing and re-distributing full length clips, "it is what it is". Saw a legal tube the other day using a trading script!

2009-12-14, 11:31 PM	#18
Senator_x Operator! Give me the number for 911! Join Date: May 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 136	My tube/blog does extremely well with long movies. Upsell the high definition videos. __________________ Web Design and Development using WordPress. Hit me up on ICQ 61661595

2009-12-15, 10:57 AM	#20
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2009-12-16, 06:47 PM	#21
mjgcny I'm going to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for TEN MINUTES Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 88	Hell, I decided to put up another blog and put effort into that. The blogs have been producing more conversions for me than a tube. __________________ Adult Hot Files Email Me AEBN converts! Try it out for yourself.

2009-12-19, 12:01 AM	#22
Senator_x Operator! Give me the number for 911! Join Date: May 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 136	MGPs have just grown up. __________________ Web Design and Development using WordPress. Hit me up on ICQ 61661595

2009-12-20, 09:12 PM	#24
mjgcny I'm going to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for TEN MINUTES Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 88	As a comparison, my blog/SEO network converts at right around $7 per 1000 unique visitors, which I know is quite good. But, it takes alot of effort to get each of those 1000 visitors. That's one of the reasons I decided to just go with blogs more than tubes...there's is and always will be that dedicated surfer group(s) who want substance rather than the "quick fix" tube sites deliver. I'm sure that will change in time. It always does. Anything worth doing will take a lot of effort, but it will pay off in the end. __________________ Adult Hot Files Email Me AEBN converts! Try it out for yourself.

2009-12-24, 03:16 PM	#25
pornsprite Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 27	I will relate, a phrase, I read from another site. This sentence was like a kick in the nuts to me, when I first read it. "Tube Sites are great for selling everything except porn". This quote came from a old timer in this industry who is converting his sites with hundreds of thousands of uniques a day, over to Tube Sites. I am relating that sentence out of context of course. This same guy painted a picture of a porn future, with many tube sites selling many products, not just porn. In his theory porn content producers, would do well selling their content, to site owners and surfers alike, thought affiliate tube sites. Anyway, this is one possible outcome, a win win for everyone, and we lived happily ever after. I was always going to diversify, my sites and not just count on blogs, but have tgps, mpgs, and tube sites.