Tube site conversion ratio question

[mjgcny]

Originally Posted by BNS

- get a scraping script which scrapes big tube sites (they start from $30)
- import 1000s of vids hosted on their servers, not yours of course, hosting is still not free
- trade a-b-c hardlinks from your worthless pr0-3 sites so your tube scraper is free from outgoing links to receive more love from the search engines
- forget about promoting paysites - noone buys memberships these days when you can find full scenes on torrents and rapidshare
- put up dating/cams/enlargement ads and make money.
- not to mention that you will do better if you filter out specific niche from big tube sites and make more sites each with it's own niche.

as simple as that

And that's a fine example as to why sales are down and will most likely star down until that kind of crap stops.

Ok, curious...how exactly are you making any money at all with that kind of approach? Sure you list dating and cam sites, but wouldn't pushing good sponsors FLV's and all that increase your odds of actually making any kind of money at all, instead of random small dollar signups from whichever cam/dating sites?

After all, any legit sponsor is going to have better quality promo material to use, not some fuzzed and shit homemade porn video being uploaded by the user, or taken from elsewhere. The surfer will eventually want better quality, not 7 minutes of out of focus amateur stuff. They get off on low quality now, but sooner or later they'll want better.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by mjgcny

After all, any legit sponsor is going to have better quality promo material to use, not some fuzzed and shit homemade porn video being uploaded by the user, or taken from elsewhere. The surfer will eventually want better quality, not 7 minutes of out of focus amateur stuff. They get off on low quality now, but sooner or later they'll want better.

Actually, a lot of people enjoy low quality true amateur stuff - and will never want better. Tube sites are often the best places to find authentic amateur porn. I can't stand produced porn with the same old pornstars. They all deepthroat/gag, take 14 inches of cock up their asshole, and squirt. How droll. Guys like me don't want to watch the chicks we can't have doing things we aren't interested in doing. We want to watch "normal" looking girlfriends/wives having mediocre sex at home or in the family car.

[SheepGuy]

Fuck, I use pics I bought 10-12 years ago, and rarely use paysite sponsors.
My goal is not to get the surfer to jack off to the stuff I give away, but to get them to go to a cam girl, or a recurring AVS site, or, lately, a dating service.
If I build a gallery or a free site I really don't give a fuck if the surfer is impressed by the quality, I want them to click for something better, if they jerk off for free, I've lost them.