Adult business advice / general question

bouncey · 2010-06-10, 04:59 AM

We understand they're copy-written, we're obviously not contesting this. If we were just bastards we'd be trying to sell this without attempting to chat to the adult webmaster community for advice first.

With regards to the girls being legal, basically we just checked for the 2257 keyword in the source domain (keywords were indexed with the gallery pages), and then just hired a very happy intern to check the 11k source domains between projects for confirmation. The images are almost all entirely from the sample/preview sections it seems. As a rough idea, we also have 1.2 million photos of random house pets, 5million images of beaches, which are somewhat less useful as a possible coherent source.

We fully appreciate the selling of it is unethical, which is why we aren't. The sort of thing we were suggesting is access to the database for analytics, or a search index with an image cache, or RGB/similar image matching. As we have the complete image tree, for example, we can do things like:

* Upload an image and anyone with this can probably tell you the source of the image (DB contains the hash fingerprint)
* Find similar images by RGB
* If you like a set of images, giving the database an image can tell you where to get more
* Putting in a URL can probably correlate to a complete list of competitor sites in your area
* Is the list of 300k galleries worth anything, you could instantly build a massive TGP
* We see the images as purely a cache, we own the database not the images, for example if you totally ignore the images we have 3.5 million thumbnails, resized and optimised to a high level and the source they came from. I would assume if someone just used the thumbnails and affiliate linked to the source domain it wouldn't provoke outrage?
* Stats? In seconds we can see that there's a 86% to 14% ratio of usage of the word "cunt" to "dick" on the keywords for these galleries, and other pointless but vaguely interesting details
* What about source domains that no longer exist? We basically have a record of what they offered

This is just 5 minutes doodling thought, as you can tell we do primarily business intelligence.

Once again I'll re-iterate that we're not after selling images, and if we get a generally negative reaction we'll bin/wipe the whole project. The only possible way we would consider monetisation would be as an information resource / access to the database. I was after "off the wall" possible suggestions, such as the ones above, which is why I'm here. It just seems a shame to wipe such a vast possible resource. As mentioned, we're basically freely giving away bandwidth at the moment on the test site and generating about 20k clicks/mo to the source domains with no money/ads involved what so ever.

Useless · 2010-06-10, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bouncey

We understand they're copy-written...

Copyrighted.

That is all. Please continue.

ArtWilliams · 2010-06-10, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Copyrighted.

That is all. Please continue.

Two words ... cross sells!

tickler · 2010-06-10, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bouncey

With regards to the girls being legal, basically we just checked for the 2257 keyword in the source domain (keywords were indexed with the gallery pages), and then just hired a very happy intern to check the 11k source domains between projects for confirmation.

There may be some holes there, because not all webmasters are in the USA and subject to American 2257 labeling rules and content regulations.

You apparently are in the USA! |tomato|

I would STRONGLY recommend that you have a lawyer explain to you exactly what 2257 conditions may apply in your situation.

2010-06-10, 04:59 AM	#1
bouncey Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 10	We understand they're copy-written, we're obviously not contesting this. If we were just bastards we'd be trying to sell this without attempting to chat to the adult webmaster community for advice first. With regards to the girls being legal, basically we just checked for the 2257 keyword in the source domain (keywords were indexed with the gallery pages), and then just hired a very happy intern to check the 11k source domains between projects for confirmation. The images are almost all entirely from the sample/preview sections it seems. As a rough idea, we also have 1.2 million photos of random house pets, 5million images of beaches, which are somewhat less useful as a possible coherent source. We fully appreciate the selling of it is unethical, which is why we aren't. The sort of thing we were suggesting is access to the database for analytics, or a search index with an image cache, or RGB/similar image matching. As we have the complete image tree, for example, we can do things like: * Upload an image and anyone with this can probably tell you the source of the image (DB contains the hash fingerprint) * Find similar images by RGB * If you like a set of images, giving the database an image can tell you where to get more * Putting in a URL can probably correlate to a complete list of competitor sites in your area * Is the list of 300k galleries worth anything, you could instantly build a massive TGP * We see the images as purely a cache, we own the database not the images, for example if you totally ignore the images we have 3.5 million thumbnails, resized and optimised to a high level and the source they came from. I would assume if someone just used the thumbnails and affiliate linked to the source domain it wouldn't provoke outrage? * Stats? In seconds we can see that there's a 86% to 14% ratio of usage of the word "cunt" to "dick" on the keywords for these galleries, and other pointless but vaguely interesting details * What about source domains that no longer exist? We basically have a record of what they offered This is just 5 minutes doodling thought, as you can tell we do primarily business intelligence. Once again I'll re-iterate that we're not after selling images, and if we get a generally negative reaction we'll bin/wipe the whole project. The only possible way we would consider monetisation would be as an information resource / access to the database. I was after "off the wall" possible suggestions, such as the ones above, which is why I'm here. It just seems a shame to wipe such a vast possible resource. As mentioned, we're basically freely giving away bandwidth at the moment on the test site and generating about 20k clicks/mo to the source domains with no money/ads involved what so ever. Last edited by bouncey; 2010-06-10 at 05:06 AM..