If You Were Inventing the Link List Today...

Simon · 2012-01-12, 12:41 PM

Just my opinions here. I think Lowry is on-target.

The links you really want are those you get because the surfer adds your link somewhere. The old 1-to-1 reciprocal linking, or almost any detectable pattern of linking, is a waste of time and can do more harm that good. But wasting time is bad enough.

As far as I'm concerned the only two ways a Link List can be valuable in today's Internet are either to: 1). return to it's roots and just be a clean and simple list of great porn, dropping all of the flashy ads and graphics to become a very simple list of links; or 2). become something brand new, which is not what I'd do so I'll leave that for others to discuss.

I'm thinking a very simple Link List, almost all text, designed *only* for the surfer's benefit. Make the links valuable to the surfer so they'll bookmark, return, share. Later, if the traffic warrants it, you monetize it somehow. But from day one you start building your mailing/newsletter list.

May turn out that the list is the reason to do it.

Just my rambling thoughts. © 2012

Useless · 2012-01-12, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Simon

I'm thinking a very simple Link List, almost all text, designed *only* for the surfer's benefit. Make the links valuable to the surfer so they'll bookmark, return, share. Later, if the traffic warrants it, you monetize it somehow. But from day one you start building your mailing/newsletter list.

That's already been done. It's called The Hun.

Toby · 2012-01-12, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Simon

...you monetize it somehow...

That's easy, just include a fair amount of your own links within the mix. I've been making a comfortable living doing just exactly that for some time now, but with a TGP instead of a Link List.

Bill · 2012-01-12, 04:44 PM

I have never seen a person put up a link to a tube site or a tube site page. Do you folks see a lot of that kind of thing? care to show examples?

I'm unconvinced that tube supremacy is caused by people posting links to tube sites, or any natural linking. Is that what you folks think causes it?

Embeds maybe. I've seen some blogs using embeds.

Toby · 2012-01-12, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill

I have never seen a person put up a link to a tube site or a tube site page. Do you folks see a lot of that kind of thing? care to show examples?

I'm unconvinced that tube supremacy is caused by people posting links to tube sites, or any natural linking. Is that what you folks think causes it?

Embeds maybe. I've seen some blogs using embeds.

It's the embedded clips that are responsible for the high number of one-way back links to the large tube sites.

Bill · 2012-01-12, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby

It's the embedded clips that are responsible for the high number of one-way back links to the large tube sites.

The math doesn't seem to fit - high numbers? Maybe.

It's not like everywhere I go I see blogs/splogs with embedded tube clips. I see a few, and they are less common all the time. Embeded sponsor clips are just as easy to use, and make more sense for the blog owner.

I was told the big tubes buy links on a mass scale, and maintain link-buying programs - dunno if it's true.

The most common explantion for tube domination I hear is that they fulfill google algrorithm specs for visitor stickiness and visit times, and direct access to content, rather than links to content, which google devalues. That and rumors of link buying.

I personally can't say I see much natural one-way linking, aside from teh embeds, and I don't see that many embeds. Maybe I'm not looking at the right places.

Toby · 2012-01-12, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill

The math doesn't seem to fit - high numbers? Maybe.

Yes, high numbers of embeds. Remember, we're talking about "illegal" tubes for the most part, with long clips. Those are what are getting embedded.

How many pseudo tube sites are out there that are nothing more than scraped embedded clips from other tubes? I can think of several off the top of my head, a few of which used to be large TGPs.

2012-01-12, 12:41 PM	#1
Simon That which does not kill us, will try, try again. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Conch Republic Posts: 5,150	Just my opinions here. I think Lowry is on-target. The links you really want are those you get because the surfer adds your link somewhere. The old 1-to-1 reciprocal linking, or almost any detectable pattern of linking, is a waste of time and can do more harm that good. But wasting time is bad enough. As far as I'm concerned the only two ways a Link List can be valuable in today's Internet are either to: 1). return to it's roots and just be a clean and simple list of great porn, dropping all of the flashy ads and graphics to become a very simple list of links; or 2). become something brand new, which is not what I'd do so I'll leave that for others to discuss. I'm thinking a very simple Link List, almost all text, designed only for the surfer's benefit. Make the links valuable to the surfer so they'll bookmark, return, share. Later, if the traffic warrants it, you monetize it somehow. But from day one you start building your mailing/newsletter list. May turn out that the list is the reason to do it. Just my rambling thoughts. © 2012 __________________ "If you're happy and you know it, think again." -- Guru Pitka

2012-01-12, 04:44 PM	#4
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	I have never seen a person put up a link to a tube site or a tube site page. Do you folks see a lot of that kind of thing? care to show examples? I'm unconvinced that tube supremacy is caused by people posting links to tube sites, or any natural linking. Is that what you folks think causes it? Embeds maybe. I've seen some blogs using embeds.