Thumbs Wrapped around Ads???

selena · 2004-09-14, 02:48 AM

At the risk of sounding stupid, can someone clarify what that means? I saw Cleo mention it in another thread, then I went to a couple of rules pages for other LL's and saw the same thing.

Do I do it in this gallery with the center ad I made?

http://www.dommedesires.com/gal103/gal103nr.htm

I wanted to check, because I had planned to adapt that gallery into a gallery for my next free site.

And if it isn't too much trouble, can someone explain why that seems to be so universally frowned upon? I can understand most of the general no-no's, but this one threw me for a loop.

Thanks much!
|goodnight

Surfn · 2004-09-14, 04:35 AM

That link comes close. thumbs on all four sides is wrapping the ad. Some dis like it for many reasons. One of the most common is it breaks up the continuity or flow of the page. Others consider it akin to a blind link because the surfers are clicking into the gallery expecting pix. HTH

Greenguy · 2004-09-14, 08:53 AM

I don't care about thumbs being wrapped around ads, so you'd be safe with me

Chop Smith · 2004-09-14, 09:09 AM

Selena, I think with the trend toward using larger banners you will see this rule relaxed some bit.

Besides, you can't satisfy them all. They will tell you to use seaveral templates. Think about it, if you do not wrap, what are the possible combinations of arranging thumbs:

Two rows with 5 five thumbs
Five rows with 2 thumbs
Ten rows with 1 thumb

Cleo · 2004-09-14, 09:14 AM

I do decline for wrapping your thumbs around your ad, but that gallery is fine with me.

The rule is more for when you see the thumbs only around the edge of the page with a big ad in the middle.

plateman · 2004-09-14, 09:18 AM

Well with me some rules are relaxed - now if the thumbs were small and the banner big, Then I would reject..I've seen thumbs wraped 360 around a odd sized banner and it looked bad and I've see other pages that looked good..

MadMax · 2004-09-14, 09:59 AM

You've got nice big thumbs on that page, and the ad is obviously an ad so there's no chance of someone blindly clicking on it and expecting a full sized pic. The page looks good, and I'd be happy to list a site with that gallery page layout.

the New Shemp · 2004-09-14, 02:52 PM

looks fine to me...

RawAlex · 2004-09-14, 04:25 PM

In the past some people would build galleries from with free content from, say, ham-a-tuer pages and put one of their totally blind link square banners that have just a picture of the model. I am sure the click rate is high - and I am sure the number of back button clicks is eually as high. Combine that with agressive mousetrapping, consoles, and back button manipulation techniques, and you have a pissed off surfer, pissed off at the link site or TGP that sent them there to start with.

The gallery example you give is fine - it is really clear what is content and what is ad.

Alex

Cleo · 2004-09-14, 04:41 PM

This drives me crazy when I see it

the New Shemp · 2004-09-14, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cleo
This drives me crazy when I see it

you know, i dont mind that, but a lot of tgp wm's go ballistic with it..

Alphawolf · 2004-09-14, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cleo
This drives me crazy when I see it

I've never used such a layout, but why would that bother you if it's an obvious advertisement and not like a tricky image to appear part of the gallery?

Cleo · 2004-09-14, 07:04 PM

Because my surfers come to look at sample pics not ads so the sample pics should be the center of attention.

Hopefully they will like what they see and the ad will get their attention.

selena · 2004-09-16, 01:03 PM

Thanks good peoples, for all your input. Sometimes it's hard for this noob to know what is what. Especially when I run into things like this, when it doesn't seem to be an exact across-the-board kinda thing.

Cleo, I appreciate you taking the time to make a clear example for me.

Y'all rock. ~firm nod~

Mateusz · 2004-09-16, 04:54 PM

And how about "enter" inscription on the banner? I try to avoid such banners but it was drilling me since ever - is it unwelcome only at index page or main and gallery pages as well ?

stev0 · 2004-09-17, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cleo
This drives me crazy when I see it

I actually like that style, lol... it's a nice change from the standard galleries that all look the same.

As long as the ad doesnt look like a pic I dont see what the problem would be?

2004-09-14, 02:48 AM	#1
selena Oh no, I'm sweating like Roger Ebert Join Date: May 2004 Location: On the edge Posts: 592	Thumbs Wrapped around Ads??? At the risk of sounding stupid, can someone clarify what that means? I saw Cleo mention it in another thread, then I went to a couple of rules pages for other LL's and saw the same thing. Do I do it in this gallery with the center ad I made? http://www.dommedesires.com/gal103/gal103nr.htm I wanted to check, because I had planned to adapt that gallery into a gallery for my next free site. And if it isn't too much trouble, can someone explain why that seems to be so universally frowned upon? I can understand most of the general no-no's, but this one threw me for a loop. Thanks much! \|goodnight __________________ Doer of Things at MetArtMoney Skype selena.delgado9 ICQ 273551440

2004-09-14, 04:35 AM	#2
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	That link comes close. thumbs on all four sides is wrapping the ad. Some dis like it for many reasons. One of the most common is it breaks up the continuity or flow of the page. Others consider it akin to a blind link because the surfers are clicking into the gallery expecting pix. HTH __________________ Surfn's Links Are you a partner?

2004-09-14, 08:53 AM	#3
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	I don't care about thumbs being wrapped around ads, so you'd be safe with me __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2004-09-14, 09:09 AM	#4
Chop Smith Eighteen 'til I Die Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,168	Selena, I think with the trend toward using larger banners you will see this rule relaxed some bit. Besides, you can't satisfy them all. They will tell you to use seaveral templates. Think about it, if you do not wrap, what are the possible combinations of arranging thumbs: Two rows with 5 five thumbs Five rows with 2 thumbs Ten rows with 1 thumb __________________

2004-09-14, 09:14 AM	#5
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	I do decline for wrapping your thumbs around your ad, but that gallery is fine with me. The rule is more for when you see the thumbs only around the edge of the page with a big ad in the middle. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2004-09-14, 09:18 AM	#6
plateman What can I do - I was born this way LOL Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ohio Posts: 3,086	Well with me some rules are relaxed - now if the thumbs were small and the banner big, Then I would reject..I've seen thumbs wraped 360 around a odd sized banner and it looked bad and I've see other pages that looked good.. __________________ Submit to: Porn O Plenty XXX Links Reality Here

2004-09-14, 09:59 AM	#7
MadMax "Without evil there can be no good, so it must be good to be evil sometimes" ~ Satan Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Motor City, baby, where carjacking was invented! Now GIMME THOSE SHOES! Posts: 2,385	You've got nice big thumbs on that page, and the ad is obviously an ad so there's no chance of someone blindly clicking on it and expecting a full sized pic. The page looks good, and I'd be happy to list a site with that gallery page layout.

2004-09-14, 02:52 PM	#8
the New Shemp Oh! I haven't changed since high school and suddenly I am uncool Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Outlaw Ranch Posts: 257	looks fine to me... __________________ my new site: http://www.outlawtgp.com

2004-09-14, 04:25 PM	#9
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	In the past some people would build galleries from with free content from, say, ham-a-tuer pages and put one of their totally blind link square banners that have just a picture of the model. I am sure the click rate is high - and I am sure the number of back button clicks is eually as high. Combine that with agressive mousetrapping, consoles, and back button manipulation techniques, and you have a pissed off surfer, pissed off at the link site or TGP that sent them there to start with. The gallery example you give is fine - it is really clear what is content and what is ad. Alex

2004-09-14, 04:41 PM	#10
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	This drives me crazy when I see it __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2004-09-14, 07:04 PM	#13
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	Because my surfers come to look at sample pics not ads so the sample pics should be the center of attention. Hopefully they will like what they see and the ad will get their attention. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2004-09-16, 01:03 PM	#14
selena Oh no, I'm sweating like Roger Ebert Join Date: May 2004 Location: On the edge Posts: 592	Thanks good peoples, for all your input. Sometimes it's hard for this noob to know what is what. Especially when I run into things like this, when it doesn't seem to be an exact across-the-board kinda thing. Cleo, I appreciate you taking the time to make a clear example for me. Y'all rock. ~firm nod~ __________________ Doer of Things at MetArtMoney Skype selena.delgado9 ICQ 273551440

2004-09-16, 04:54 PM	#15
Mateusz Screw you, guys. I'm going home. Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Gliwice, Poland Posts: 996	And how about "enter" inscription on the banner? I try to avoid such banners but it was drilling me since ever - is it unwelcome only at index page or main and gallery pages as well ?