I Have A Dilemma

[Cleo]

Usually honesty is the best.

Then again I'm a fuck it if they don't like me let the chips fall where they may kind of girl.

People know what I do. When asked if they should get in this business I tell them that it is really too late unless they are willing to work extremely hard.

[Verbal]

Originally posted by RockDaddy
Once you tell your friend, he'll start shaking his head and all your friends and family will start coming out of their hiding places to help you.

Oh my... that would be crazy... lol.

[Adult Traffic]

Originally posted by RockDaddy
It's probably some kind of intervention. All of your friends and family are suspecting you of being involved in porn and this was just an elaborate setup. Once you tell your friend, he'll start shaking his head and all your friends and family will start coming out of their hiding places to help you.

Haha, that would be some funny shit

We know your ... "RockDaddy" name and we feel that you're addicted to money and naked women and that's just wrong.

LOL

[Ramster]

RockDaddy |skull|

That would Not be cool. hehehe

AlphaWolf
No. I'll show him both but the phone call was about numbers. This company was taking 5% and I'm sure there was 15% for processing so it only left 80%. I said he could spend very little and still get 60%.

If he goes ahead with this I'll push him towards a bit of both, more PPS than revshare though!

I'm outta here so I'll see you all later.

[SirMoby]

Tell him to give you $3,200 and you'll get him started in the biz I bet within 3 weeks everyone that you both know will be thinking you're a pervert.

[Alphawolf]

Good luck. If he's into it- you no longer have to live your lie alone. LOL.

I found even when talking to smart people I know, the jargon in the biz is the biggest issue.

I mean, really it's pretty simple. We get commissions on sales we help make.

People still don't get it. <shrug>

I'm still wondering if your buddy has any web design skills? If not...that's a fairly big curve.

I'm interested how you would specifically start him out?

I think if someone I knew had some good smarts, some web skills, and a good understanding of online communication- I'd give a brief explanation of free sites. Show a link list, show a free site, then show the LL's rules and that would take a bit.

Iggys Tutorial would probably be great as well.

With tommys paid partnership it's a great time to get into it as he can see results or lack thereof pretty quickly.

Let project Cunuck Porn Shadow begin!

[pornrex]

Hey Ramster!!

Listen to Rock Daddy!! He may have a point!

I mean think about it. All of a sudden this guy comes up with this ridiculous notion that he wants to do a "turnkey" porn business venture?

Everyone is probably suspicious of you in the first place, right? So, if I wanted to know what was going on, I would dangle bait to catch the fish I was going for. It just makes sense.

Why don't you tell your friend that you "know" of someone that you are really close to that is involved in the business, thereby implicating the friend and not yourself. This way you can explain to your friend what is right what is wrong, so on and so forth. If you have to create a fake email addy, send yourself an email under the fake addy to yourself and outline exaclty what your friend needs to do.

Sound good? That would be my approach...

[Alphawolf]

I don't see too much of a difference between adult and casino/gambling.

I guess it depends on your social circle, how liberal your family is, etc...

I wouldn't go around proudly stating I'm a porn salesman. But, I wouldn't go around proudly stating I was a casino salesman either.

My Mom and damn near everyone I know knows that I transitioned from regular web design to adult.

Even a conservative female friend just asked me some specifics when I told her what I was doing.

Everyone tends to think there is "easy" money in it so they fiigure ya may as well make some money off this internet thing somehow.

If people really are your friend's and they see you happy and doing ok, then it just shouldn't be a big deal.

The biggest misconception about this business (I think) is that it's nearly 100% men doing the selling.

[T Pat]

Ramster I think the first thing you need to determine tonight is does the guy want to work
When I first got into the biz I thought all it would take is a web site a few bucks to throw at it and maybe 20 hours a month (including getting photos) for the money to come pouring in. I would spend most of my time
remodeling my boat getting it ready to go spend the next few years cruising the Sea Of Cortez then settling down if we found a spot we liked, if not fuck it, the boat has two 1,000 gallon fuel tanks that will get us to Hawaii with fuel to spare and the South Pacific is just a left turn from there. "RIGHT"
I'm 50 years old and thought I was beyond falling for any get rich schemes or pie in the sky dreams. I think the reason, I came into it so blindly and without doing any kind of research was because I had been brainwashed by the media followed up by all the web sites and emails I had read and seen making it sound so easy.
I wish I had talked to someone just like you before I had gotten into the biz, it would have saved me money and made me money. I would of learned it's doable but involves work.

I did a little research today (I did it to post in Kloves thread, oh well) I built the two ugliest free sites ever excepted by a reviewer last December for 8th street Latinas, put a few galleries up on a hub and a banner up sometimes, That's is all the promoting I have done for Nasty Dollars. I have made $315 from that effort so far, based on that I think it's safe to say with a little education in filtering traffic and a hub or two a free site will make $100 a year or more.

[RockDaddy]

Well, I guess they got him in porn rehab

[manmal]

Man please don't do the same mistake I did .
I try to help a firend MAKE SOME MONEY by presenting him THE PORN BIZ BUT it came out he didn't want to work in the porn biz "it was not ethical for him " and then all my friends give me some lessons on why I was doing that , hard period .

I worked 1 year on stupid underpaid project so people could belive me that the porn biz was only temporally.

What you can do is simple tell you friend that you have a friend in the adult biz and he will be happy to show him the way for half of the money you will be that personae you make fake icq e-mail paypal account and you talk to him teach him how to make money and take example $3K from him you will save him from giving away $3800 and on the other hand you will make easy $3K and you will not show your identity people dont understand belive me I've been thru that. If you are young personae like me don't do the same mistake I did.
That is my story.

[Sean416]

Originally posted by pornrex
Why don't you tell your friend that you "know" of someone that you are really close to that is involved in the business, thereby implicating the friend and not yourself. This way you can explain to your friend what is right what is wrong, so on and so forth. If you have to create a fake email addy, send yourself an email under the fake addy to yourself and outline exaclty what your friend needs to do.

Sound good? That would be my approach...

Yeah, that's what iw as trying to say and thats what I would do.

[pornrex]

Great minds think alike Sean416!!

(BTW, I live in T-dot too!)

[ngb1959]

Originally posted by Cleo
Usually honesty is the best.

Then again I'm a fuck it if they don't like me let the chips fall where they may kind of girl.

People know what I do. When asked if they should get in this business I tell them that it is really too late unless they are willing to work extremely hard.

Don't I know it! I've been doing this since the beginning of the year, learned a hell of a lot, and just started seeing money come in. If I didn't have my sugar daddy, I'd be living in a van - no rather - a cardboard box - down by the river!

I have read this whole thread and it has made me quite curious - I NEED AN UPDATE! WHAT HAPPENED?

[Ramster]

So I went over to his place last night and talked for a few minutes. Got a feel for how interested he is in doing this. And things like if you did this you'd probably want to leave that info out for other people on what you do, yada yada yada.

So then I say you know how I make thousands a month promoting casinos? He says yes. I said...it's all bullshit. I make no money on casinos, it's 100% adult.

AlphaWolf, I told him that and showed him that. We are sales reps. We use search engines and create small advertising sites with some sample photos to drive surfers to a paysite for a commission on the sale or a straight fee for every sale. It's pretty simple.

So long story short you'll probably see him doing free sites soon once he gets a grasp on things a bit more.

And yes he knows html, not sure what else he knows.

[Greenguy]

Originally posted by Ramster
And yes he knows html, not sure what else he knows.

Well, that means he has a head start over about 1/2 the people that submit free sites

[Useless]

Originally posted by Ramster
Why do I feel like I'm coming out of the closet or something?

Well, a man your age needs to start being honest with himself. Admit it. You dream nightly of being marooned on an island in the Arctic with Ricky Martin, with only body heat to keep you warm.

Hey, I'm glad you did the right thing and saved your buddy a big wad of cash. It would have been wrong to let him go down that road without counsel.

[Alphawolf]

Originally posted by Ramster
So then I say you know how I make thousands a month promoting casinos? He says yes. I said...it's all bullshit. I make no money on casinos, it's 100% adult.

And his reaction was?

[Ramster]

Originally posted by Alphawolf
And his reaction was?

He laughed and said he really didn't have any idea.

[Kezza]

You did the right thing Ramster!!! Good for you

[Tommy]

I had a distant friend who bought into some adult paysites from a company

it sounds a lot like what you are talking about

he never ever saw a dime in return

[lassiter]

It's another example of the tired but true line - "If it sounds to good to be true, it probably is."

[SirMoby]

I've decided to start a new program. You give me $6,400 and I will guarantee you a return of $1,000 for the first 3 months. I will put this guarantee in writing and I will even put $3,000 of my own money in a joint account within 48 hours of receiving your payment of $6,400.

That’s right. I guarantee that you will make $1,000 for 3 months no matter what. You don’t have to do anything. Just to show you how confident I am in this program that if you give me $12,000 I will guarantee you $2,000 for 3 months no matter what. That’s a discount of $800.

In fact for a small fee of only $1,000 I will go ahead and front you all 3 months worth of the guaranteed earnings. That’s right, you give me $13,000 and you will immediately receive $6,000 worth of your first 3 months earnings.

After 3 months you should fully understand my proven money making methods and you’ll be ready to do it on your own.

[Ms Naughty]

Goddam, SirMoby, I'm there!!! LOL

I'm embarrassed to admit that I had to read that through twice to understand it. This is why I do the writing and not the accounting

I love telling people what I do. I get either a shocked reaction or extreme interest, and then people start telling you all about how many porn DVDs they own.

[KCat]

I wonder how many people bought into that scam? With that much money, you could hire a good designer to bang out some templates, set up decent hosting & buy some content. But diving straight into the paysite end of the business? Yikes.