Tube site conversion ratio question

[geirlur]

Originally Posted by pornsprite

I will relate, a phrase, I read from another site. This sentence was like a kick in the nuts to me, when I first read it. "Tube Sites are great for selling everything except porn". This quote came from a old timer in this industry who is converting his sites with hundreds of thousands of uniques a day, over to Tube Sites.

Choker said that.. but he also admitted that he was wrong when he started to get checks from the links below the videos..

[freeporn]

i made a new tube , it has about 1k unique daily , banner clicks are with the same ratio with my picture gallery site but there is no a sale since that time other is doing regularly.

[bDok]

Originally Posted by freeporn

i made a new tube , it has about 1k unique daily , banner clicks are with the same ratio with my picture gallery site but there is no a sale since that time other is doing regularly.

on some of my tube sites that are really niched out I've done a couple bucks by making sure to have free signup things on it you get a buck or so for just people giving email addresses and such. It's a couple bucks a month, but it all adds up at the end of the year.

[BNS]

- get a scraping script which scrapes big tube sites (they start from $30)
- import 1000s of vids hosted on their servers, not yours of course, hosting is still not free
- trade a-b-c hardlinks from your worthless pr0-3 sites so your tube scraper is free from outgoing links to receive more love from the search engines
- forget about promoting paysites - noone buys memberships these days when you can find full scenes on torrents and rapidshare
- put up dating/cams/enlargement ads and make money.
- not to mention that you will do better if you filter out specific niche from big tube sites and make more sites each with it's own niche.

as simple as that

[mjgcny]

Originally Posted by BNS

- get a scraping script which scrapes big tube sites (they start from $30)
- import 1000s of vids hosted on their servers, not yours of course, hosting is still not free
- trade a-b-c hardlinks from your worthless pr0-3 sites so your tube scraper is free from outgoing links to receive more love from the search engines
- forget about promoting paysites - noone buys memberships these days when you can find full scenes on torrents and rapidshare
- put up dating/cams/enlargement ads and make money.
- not to mention that you will do better if you filter out specific niche from big tube sites and make more sites each with it's own niche.

as simple as that

And that's a fine example as to why sales are down and will most likely star down until that kind of crap stops.

Ok, curious...how exactly are you making any money at all with that kind of approach? Sure you list dating and cam sites, but wouldn't pushing good sponsors FLV's and all that increase your odds of actually making any kind of money at all, instead of random small dollar signups from whichever cam/dating sites?

After all, any legit sponsor is going to have better quality promo material to use, not some fuzzed and shit homemade porn video being uploaded by the user, or taken from elsewhere. The surfer will eventually want better quality, not 7 minutes of out of focus amateur stuff. They get off on low quality now, but sooner or later they'll want better.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by mjgcny

After all, any legit sponsor is going to have better quality promo material to use, not some fuzzed and shit homemade porn video being uploaded by the user, or taken from elsewhere. The surfer will eventually want better quality, not 7 minutes of out of focus amateur stuff. They get off on low quality now, but sooner or later they'll want better.

Actually, a lot of people enjoy low quality true amateur stuff - and will never want better. Tube sites are often the best places to find authentic amateur porn. I can't stand produced porn with the same old pornstars. They all deepthroat/gag, take 14 inches of cock up their asshole, and squirt. How droll. Guys like me don't want to watch the chicks we can't have doing things we aren't interested in doing. We want to watch "normal" looking girlfriends/wives having mediocre sex at home or in the family car.

[SheepGuy]

Fuck, I use pics I bought 10-12 years ago, and rarely use paysite sponsors.
My goal is not to get the surfer to jack off to the stuff I give away, but to get them to go to a cam girl, or a recurring AVS site, or, lately, a dating service.
If I build a gallery or a free site I really don't give a fuck if the surfer is impressed by the quality, I want them to click for something better, if they jerk off for free, I've lost them.

[HowlingWulf]

I'd rather not scrape illegal vids to my site and don't want anything to do with those who do.

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by HowlingWulf

I'd rather not scrape illegal vids to my site and don't want anything to do with those who do.

Besides us, there are plenty of legit, legal, authorized content providers out there where you can get content too.

We run a tube and we submit to them. We do get paysite sales and even if they don't stay on there is enough traffic from it that our cam sales, etc. go up accordingly too. Our submits do great or terrible on any given day - but the average conversion is still decent and I can certainly say that the profit is there for us to continue submitting.

I am not being coy about providing specific ratios. I just learned long ago not to believe anyone else when they brag about their conversions and to not expect anyone to believe me when I say how well we do.