Are These New Piece Of Shit Options Now Standard In NATS?

[PBucksJohn]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

You know, John, it's the not caring that hurts.

Personal? If you consider watching one's income drop repeatedly when sponsor after sponsor decides to use your product as personal - well then, yes, maybe it is personal. I suppose one would find it really mysterious as to why one would actually earn less with cascading billing.

Just tired of the empty promises and bullshit - that's all.

So don't use the product. Like I said, I read your posts. I really have no desire to even try to work with you on it.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

So don't use the product.

I don't USE your product - your clients do. I, as an affiliate, haven't much choice in the matter. I have as of yet never seen a program ask for its affialiates' opinions on whether or not it should use NATS.

So now your sitting there all smug - just waiting to reply with "I meant don't promote our client's programs!" Well, when you've already built sites and galleries and SEOd pages promoting your clients BEFORE they switched to NATS, what are you supposed to do - just pull those pages? Get banned everywhere for yanking pages? Lose SE traffic? Yeah, okay - I'll get to work on that.

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

Like I said, I read your posts. I really have no desire to even try to work with you on it.

|shocking| I warned you that I didn't have anything constructive to say. It's all opinion, if you don't mind.

[PBucksJohn]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

I don't USE your product - your clients do. I, as an affiliate, haven't much choice in the matter. I have as of yet never seen a program ask for its affialiates' opinions on whether or not it should use NATS.

So now your sitting there all smug - just waiting to reply with "I meant don't promote our client's programs!" Well, when you've already built sites and galleries and SEOd pages promoting your clients BEFORE they switched to NATS, what are you supposed to do - just pull those pages? Get banned everywhere for yanking pages? Lose SE traffic? Yeah, okay - I'll get to work on that.

|shocking| I warned you that I didn't have anything constructive to say. It's all opinion, if you don't mind.

You do use it via the programs. I didn't say don't purchase it.

A few (but a vast minority of) programs offer both a CCBill program and a NATS based program but you do a have a point there as far as programs you already use moving to the NATS backend.

As far as programs asking their affiliates if they should move to NATS, not all do but I have seen some do so. I think the problem you're running into is not the affiliate programs not caring, but the vast majority of affiliates wanting NATS.

Too bad you don't have anything constructive to say. Maybe then something would actually be accomplished.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

I think the problem you're running into is not the affiliate programs not caring, but the vast majority of affiliates wanting NATS.

If so, those same affiliates wear bells on their shoes and are awe-struck by blinking lights.

EDIT: Hey John, it was good arguing with you - and you are definitely damn good at it , but I need to drop out of this thread. I become irrational and somewhat uncivilized (or so I'm told) after awhile and I don't want to destroy the focus of this thread with my idle hostility. Thanks.

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[quote=Greenie;317062]They were using something else (I think the one that Lotza Dollars still uses)

GG, yes we're still using TabooTracking Software Company. Very simple and easy to deal with, but I would like to find/write a new software program that would display some more "in-depth" stats.

[quote=Useless Warrior;316606]I don't USE your product - your clients do. I, as an affiliate, haven't much choice in the matter. I have as of yet never seen a program ask for its affialiates' opinions on whether or not it should use NATS.

Useless Warrior...should I switch to NATS? Geez by the looks of this thread it maybe a bad decision ya think?

This is a really good thread ...very interesting