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Old 2007-01-31, 04:15 AM   #1
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You really need to analyze your sales and not just your traffic. A link list can send you 10000 hits and generate ZERO sales. Another link list could send you 100 hits and produce 2 sales.

I'll take quality traffic over quantity traffic every day.

Just my 2 cents.

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Old 2007-01-31, 12:45 PM   #2
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You really need to analyze your sales and not just your traffic. A link list can send you 10000 hits and generate ZERO sales. Another link list could send you 100 hits and produce 2 sales.

I'll take quality traffic over quantity traffic every day.

Just my 2 cents.

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Read that post, then read it again. Nice post Danielle, to the point of more than likely being ignored by most. That's when ya know a post is good by the way lol
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Old 2007-01-31, 02:19 PM   #3
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You really need to analyze your sales and not just your traffic. A link list can send you 10000 hits and generate ZERO sales. Another link list could send you 100 hits and produce 2 sales.

I'll take quality traffic over quantity traffic every day.

Just my 2 cents.

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People, especially small linklist owners, often say this, but I've never seen it in my stats.

When I analyse my sales, the pattern is clear. The linklists that send the most traffic also produce the most sales.

You might be able to legitimately make the "extra sales" argument about small link list traffic, but to say the traffic is better - that doesn't make logical sense and it has never been a pattern in my own stats.

You could say that's because I don't submit to a lot of little linklists, but I don't submit to a lot of little linklists because I've often analyzed my sales and I've clearly seen that most sales come from a limited number of linklists.

I say it doesn't make logical sense because (1) it's more likely for the bigger linklists to have taken better positions on serch terms for SE traffic and (2) the bigger linklists get the first tastes of traded traffic, by the time traded traffic reaches the little linklists it's been sold to several times already.

The "extra sales from small LL traffic" argument holds up, the "better sales from small LL traffic" doesn't, in my experience.
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Old 2007-01-31, 02:33 PM   #4
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I also think that saying Samoseks is an asshole or offender in some way because he dared to use the holy word "Blacklist" is prety specious.

So, if a freesite submitter dares to use the holy word Blacklist, which only linklist owners are allowed to use, then he should be blacklisted, right?

You guys don't see the irony in that at all?

I think the idea of a freesite submiters blacklist for linklists is a good one. It should be easily and publically available information - how fast a linklist reviews, how many sites are accepted, and how many linklists are too uptight to be worth subbing to.

The past few years, when every freesite submitter was guilty until proven innocent, and linklists went crypto and hid wether or not a site was accepted and why, haven't been a sustainable model for this business.
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Old 2007-01-31, 04:03 PM   #5
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I think the idea of a freesite submiters blacklist for linklists is a good one. It should be easily and publically available information - how fast a linklist reviews, how many sites are accepted, and how many linklists are too uptight to be worth subbing to.
I actually like the idea of that. If it wasn't for the fact that I'm not a mass submitter, I'd build one.
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Old 2007-01-31, 07:06 PM   #6
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I think the idea of a freesite submiters blacklist for linklists is a good one. It should be easily and publically available information - how fast a linklist reviews, how many sites are accepted, and how many linklists are too uptight to be worth subbing to.
There is likely a buck or two in that idea besides its merits for submitters.
Submitters are always looking for content and sponsors, it would be a great place to advertise sponsors, content suppliers, software, etc. or an excellent addition to any webmaster resource site.
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Old 2007-01-31, 04:08 PM   #7
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The "extra sales from small LL traffic" argument holds up, the "better sales from small LL traffic" doesn't, in my experience.
Again, I agree. In my eyes, all the traffic at link lists, whether big or small, is about the same quality. My strategy has always been to submit to the heavy hitters and my own couple of small lists. Part of me thinks the folks who submit to more than 40 (or so) lists are nuts, part of me applauds the effort. My submit list is admittedly even smaller.
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Old 2007-01-31, 05:06 PM   #8
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People, especially small linklist owners, often say this, but I've never seen it in my stats.

When I analyse my sales, the pattern is clear. The linklists that send the most traffic also produce the most sales.

You might be able to legitimately make the "extra sales" argument about small link list traffic, but to say the traffic is better - that doesn't make logical sense and it has never been a pattern in my own stats.

You could say that's because I don't submit to a lot of little linklists, but I don't submit to a lot of little linklists because I've often analyzed my sales and I've clearly seen that most sales come from a limited number of linklists.

I say it doesn't make logical sense because (1) it's more likely for the bigger linklists to have taken better positions on serch terms for SE traffic and (2) the bigger linklists get the first tastes of traded traffic, by the time traded traffic reaches the little linklists it's been sold to several times already.

The "extra sales from small LL traffic" argument holds up, the "better sales from small LL traffic" doesn't, in my experience.
From my point of view it looks quiet the same but... I've noticed that if a 1-2 years old FS sends a sale, most times it is reffered by mirror page without any huge LL recip. On the other hand I must say that in times it was allowed to submit multiple doorway pages like warning.htm, warn.htm, enter.htm etc. these pages were showing up in SE and not the main doorpage index.htm which was submited to biggest LL (I actually didn't and still don't understand why but it may have something to do with that.)

Personally I belive its really worth submitting to smaller LL but since I'm submitting all by hand I'm just to damn lazy and quit doing that long time ago

But if someone uses RoboForm or some other utility it doesnt take much to submit another 50 or 100 LL (the main problem is to keep your recip tables up to date...)
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