1001 questions from a newbie.... me.

[Greenguy]

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Hi Alex

[Bill]

Well thats kinda crazy. You sure? ned is alex? And it was alex saying all the sponsors are crooks? (like anybody with any sense hasn't already known this for years... and still made money off those crooks.)

Freesites are antiquated, thats true enough. Google decided that all for us. We were trying to do something we thought was responsible, putting a layer of protection between free porn and minors, but google decided that the minors aren't google's market interest.

Life is like that.

Hey, lets all start tube sites - we'll make a mint. No lets all start forums. Wait - it's blogs, lets all start blogs. Web 2.0, thats where the money is. Ooops, we're back to tube sites.

Oh noes, it's the end of content!

It's like musical chairs - the last guy left with a tube site wins.

[Bill]

Hey ned, if you're Alex, Hi man. I kinda miss you, you old rascal.

You do have a talent for stirring the shit dude, but it ain't like you're wrong, just a little tense.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Bill

Hey ned, if you're Alex, Hi man. I kinda miss you, you old rascal.

You do have a talent for stirring the shit dude, but it ain't like you're wrong, just a little tense.

For the record, I always liked Alex. He's a bright guy, especially for this industry, and was always a sweet guy to me and my wife.

If it was you, Alex - it was fun to tangle with you and I meant you no disrespect.

Like Bill said, ned - whoever he is, isn't really wrong about free sites and certainly not about the menace we're up against. The problem with free sites, which I guess was part of ned's argument, is that they're so dumbed-down and, I suppose, limited, in order to make them easy to navigate for surfers and reviewers. Bill [that old timer ] knows a ton more about what free sites were in the past because he's been at this a lot longer than I have and spends a lot more time analyzing his game than most people do. The free sites of today are all I really know. They've always been a limited, very clean, 4 page package to me.

Frankly, I haven't built a submitted free site in a long, long time. But I know that you can make money doing that because I have a bunch of submitters who submit free sites almost daily. Either they're making money or they're all gluttons for punishment with too much free time.

Whether you're submitting free sites or galleries, blogging like a maniac, or working your own self-propelled traffic system, this business keeps getting tougher. Google can't make up its fucking mind -- and pirates, scumbags and some sponsors are handing out full length movies like they're penny candy during a parade. I swear, we're going to see a point when content will have almost zero value. It'll be freely distributed and the only programs left will be dating sponsors with fake geo profiles - and they won't need affiliates because they own the goddamn tube sites in the first place. I hope you don't know anyone who wants to be a pornstar because talent won't be paid fuck-all once all content is free to the consumer. Another year of this nonsense and WE will be the ones petitioning Congress to restrict pornography to anyone without a credit card and demanding that it all sits behind the secure walls of a members area.

[Star Man]

If I would have known it was you Raw Alex I would have just shut the fuck up.Not that I know you but I know your popular around here and I'm not about even begin to pretend to know as much as you do even though I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE with you.

BTW if you bump into Ned,tell him Star Man has him by the balls!

Peace

[Bill]

I think the problem with freesites was that google stopped liking the linking model they were based on. Or, more accurately, liking it as much as it used too. But, like everything, that can be argued against.

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It will be interesting to see if the value of content can be preserved, and the ways it which it will be conserved. This is arguably one of the biggest economic problems of this century.

The rise of the tubes has been quick. And the legal response to the tubes will be much slower. I thought Jay Quinlan made a pretty good post about organizing legally to deal with the content theft model of the tubes over at the zoo - but he's too controversial to be a good organizer for such a thing.