What Am I Doing Wrong?

SaucyPanties · 2005-04-18, 04:50 AM

Hi All my first post so please be gentle with me

From my site I sell worn panties www.saucypanties.com I have spent countless hours working on the link popularity and keywords for Google. For several months the site has returned top position on Google for any combination of searches containing the phrase "worn panties" or "used panties" even adding "for sale" to either of the phrases.

The last Google update was even kinder to me, now searching the single word "panties" on Google gives my site a top 3 listing and visits have increased to over 2000 unique a day, all targetted no misleading visits.

So why am I not making big $??? Sales have not increased but then there is not big money to make at selling worn panties, are my affiliates poor? I am trying not to over do the affiliate thing as there bannes and codes slow the site down to snail pace.

Any advice appreciated..

Sue

swedguy · 2005-04-18, 05:42 AM

Hi Sue and welcome

I just took a quick look and ended up at Susan's page and I couldn't find where I could order her panties at first. After some searching I found a tiny tiny "Purchase" out to the left. If it were me, I wouldn't make it so hard to find.
If I have something to sell, I make it easy to order. No need to overdo it with huge flashing things. But I would add something in the middle that is very noticable.

Another thing might be that everything is in GBP on your order page. If you get a lot of US surfers they might get confused how much £56 really is in $.

I like your site though, it's nice and clean. But I would add a little more selling to it

Fido · 2005-04-18, 05:54 AM

By my opinion traffic looking for "panties" is not as much targeted as traffic looking for "worn panties" or "used panties". That is the problem why increase in traffic is not equal to increase in revenue. Maybe to get another revenue you can add some ads of sponsors that offers content of girls in panties, upskirts or something similar...

SaucyPanties · 2005-04-18, 07:52 AM

Swedguy - Thank you for that, I thought I had updated the purchase button on that page and take your point about the navigation, I have enlarged it...

Fido - Good point, maybe I should review the affiliates.

Thanks guys
Sue

Jeka · 2005-04-18, 07:58 AM

(Is it true that it is illegal to sell worn panties in the USA? I saw a documentary on TV about that)

Rocco · 2005-04-18, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeka

(Is it true that it is illegal to sell worn panties in the USA? I saw a documentary on TV about that)

yeah, also heard about that - don't know if it's completely forbidden to sell... but sending them by postal service is for sure forbidden |coolman

HappySmut · 2005-04-18, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocco

yeah, also heard about that - don't know if it's completely forbidden to sell... but sending them by postal service is for sure forbidden |coolman

how is sending used panties through the mail forbidden?

drug sniffing dogs get a good wiff and get confused?

ponygirl · 2005-04-18, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeka

(Is it true that it is illegal to sell worn panties in the USA? I saw a documentary on TV about that)

It can be deemed as "obscene" materials to send used/worn panties thru the postal service. I guess taxpayers don't want to pay for it lol

sending thru fedex or similar seems to be ok.
I'm in Canada & wouldn't send any thru the mail over the border, but might w/in the country.

Cleo · 2005-04-18, 08:31 AM

Maybe there just isn't that big of a market for used panties.

Personally I can't seem to sell much of anything that involves an actually physical product. Seems my surfers don't want anything that involves giving out their address or personal info other then buying a web membership.

tickler · 2005-04-20, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cleo

Maybe there just isn't that big of a market for used panties.

They sell them in vending machines in Japan I think.

On that note, maybe your processor is using geo-ip scrubbing and that could cut your sales. I have noticed that panties and upskirts sites took a major hit when the CC processors brought in their foreign chargeback rules.

Joe · 2005-04-20, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tickler

They sell them in vending machines in Japan I think.

On that note, maybe your processor is using geo-ip scrubbing and that could cut your sales. I have noticed that panties and upskirts sites took a major hit when the CC processors brought in their foreign chargeback rules.

Well, that's in a whole other country.

Japan is known for its rather "unique" fetishes.

Ramster · 2005-04-18, 08:37 AM

Seems to be a lot of traffic leaks too for surfers to go other than buying panties.

SaucyPanties · 2005-04-18, 09:34 AM

Never heard of it being illegal but who knows... PonyGirl do you fancy some link exchanges?

Sue

SirMoby · 2005-04-18, 11:32 AM

Good job! You are #1 for Used Panties and #2 for Worn Panties at Google. Think about how many hits a day do you get for these key phrases?

I just clicked on Donna and took a look around. Mayeb I'm not totally into worn panties but I didn't see a lot of enticing sales text or images. I think it could be far more enticing.

There have been a few fines for sending used panties through the US Mail. What wasn't clear to me is, using a different entity for shipping (UPS, Fed Ex, Canada Post) and what state laws could be enforced.

You're in the UK so you're not using the US Mail.

SaucyPanties · 2005-04-18, 04:03 PM

Wow just switched last week to a Yahoo server as I needed more php capabilities and it looks like they have closed my account without saying a word?? My site has disapeared and I cannot access anything

Sue

Toby · 2005-04-18, 04:12 PM

I'm fairly sure that selling worn panties is a violation of their terms of service.

swedguy · 2005-04-18, 04:44 PM

http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

You agree to not use the Service to:

a. upload, post, email, transmit or otherwise make available any Content that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tortious, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable;

SaucyPanties · 2005-04-19, 03:47 AM

Site is back up and running, it was a credit card issue. They have said that they are okay with the content so far as long as it does not get any more explicit than it is including banners...

Sue
www.saucypanties.com

Head Boy · 2005-04-19, 04:06 AM

I registered The dirty panty network as it thought it would be interesting to list a load of cam and phone sex sites where the girls were prepared to sell their panties. It didn't meet with much enthusiasm, so I didn't bother. You're welcome to have some links on there if you've got some promo pics I can use for you.

ngb1959 · 2005-04-19, 06:50 AM

All I know is that you're supposed to wear panties when trying on bathing suits and it's very hard to return undergarments that are worn and without the tags still attached.

Head Boy · 2005-04-20, 03:47 PM

Yep - scrubbing will reduce the market for used panties (especially with adult content).

Wizzo · 2005-04-24, 11:27 AM

It's Illegal to mail, because of the Potential Bio-hazard it poses... Basically, say some girl has some funky disease and traces of that is on her dirty panties and she mails it to a different part of the world, hence spreading that disease... That's what the govt. is trying to prevent... At least that's what we're told by 3 different lawyers, when we were researching doing a similar type site...

Now as for the site and why it's not selling... I would say two reasons...

The 1st as mentioned above the purchase links are very tough to find, especially for a "one handed" horny surfer...

Second, and the MAIN problem is that most guys looking for panties are looking for a souvenir of a particular girl, but there's not even a faceshot of Susan, Donna, or Tina... The site seems very impersonal. In fact, to be honest, the site looks like someone that bought 3 content sets, gave them names and are trying to scam someone into thinking these girls are real... Which I would think doesn't work well for selling used panties... Hope that didn't sound to harsh, but just what I see as the problem...

2005-04-18, 08:31 AM	#9
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2005-04-18, 04:12 PM	#16
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2005-04-19, 03:47 AM	#18
SaucyPanties No matter how good you are at something, there's always about a million people better than you Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 231	Back Up Site is back up and running, it was a credit card issue. They have said that they are okay with the content so far as long as it does not get any more explicit than it is including banners... Sue www.saucypanties.com

2005-04-19, 04:06 AM	#19
Head Boy Hello, is this President Clinton? Good! I figured if anyone knew where to get some tang it would be you Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: England Posts: 442	I registered The dirty panty network as it thought it would be interesting to list a load of cam and phone sex sites where the girls were prepared to sell their panties. It didn't meet with much enthusiasm, so I didn't bother. You're welcome to have some links on there if you've got some promo pics I can use for you. __________________ Adult domain names for sale at Baronets Splinkies have arrived

2005-04-18, 04:50 AM	#1
SaucyPanties No matter how good you are at something, there's always about a million people better than you Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 231	What Am I Doing Wrong? Hi All my first post so please be gentle with me From my site I sell worn panties www.saucypanties.com I have spent countless hours working on the link popularity and keywords for Google. For several months the site has returned top position on Google for any combination of searches containing the phrase "worn panties" or "used panties" even adding "for sale" to either of the phrases. The last Google update was even kinder to me, now searching the single word "panties" on Google gives my site a top 3 listing and visits have increased to over 2000 unique a day, all targetted no misleading visits. So why am I not making big $??? Sales have not increased but then there is not big money to make at selling worn panties, are my affiliates poor? I am trying not to over do the affiliate thing as there bannes and codes slow the site down to snail pace. Any advice appreciated.. Sue

2005-04-18, 05:42 AM	#2
swedguy Vagabond Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,374	Hi Sue and welcome I just took a quick look and ended up at Susan's page and I couldn't find where I could order her panties at first. After some searching I found a tiny tiny "Purchase" out to the left. If it were me, I wouldn't make it so hard to find. If I have something to sell, I make it easy to order. No need to overdo it with huge flashing things. But I would add something in the middle that is very noticable. Another thing might be that everything is in GBP on your order page. If you get a lot of US surfers they might get confused how much £56 really is in $. I like your site though, it's nice and clean. But I would add a little more selling to it

2005-04-18, 05:54 AM	#3
Fido And Lord, we are especially thankful for nuclear power, the cleanest, safest energy source there is. Except for solar, which is just a pipe dream Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 229	By my opinion traffic looking for "panties" is not as much targeted as traffic looking for "worn panties" or "used panties". That is the problem why increase in traffic is not equal to increase in revenue. Maybe to get another revenue you can add some ads of sponsors that offers content of girls in panties, upskirts or something similar...

2005-04-18, 07:52 AM	#4
SaucyPanties No matter how good you are at something, there's always about a million people better than you Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 231	Swedguy - Thank you for that, I thought I had updated the purchase button on that page and take your point about the navigation, I have enlarged it... Fido - Good point, maybe I should review the affiliates. Thanks guys Sue

2005-04-18, 07:58 AM	#5
Jeka My wife is not a doobie to be passed around! On our wedding day I promised to bogart her for life! Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 275	(Is it true that it is illegal to sell worn panties in the USA? I saw a documentary on TV about that)

2005-04-18, 09:34 AM	#13
SaucyPanties No matter how good you are at something, there's always about a million people better than you Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 231	Never heard of it being illegal but who knows... PonyGirl do you fancy some link exchanges? Sue

2005-04-18, 11:32 AM	#14
SirMoby Jim? I heard he's a dirty pornographer. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 2,706	Good job! You are #1 for Used Panties and #2 for Worn Panties at Google. Think about how many hits a day do you get for these key phrases? I just clicked on Donna and took a look around. Mayeb I'm not totally into worn panties but I didn't see a lot of enticing sales text or images. I think it could be far more enticing. There have been a few fines for sending used panties through the US Mail. What wasn't clear to me is, using a different entity for shipping (UPS, Fed Ex, Canada Post) and what state laws could be enforced. You're in the UK so you're not using the US Mail.

2005-04-18, 04:03 PM	#15
SaucyPanties No matter how good you are at something, there's always about a million people better than you Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 231	Wow just switched last week to a Yahoo server as I needed more php capabilities and it looks like they have closed my account without saying a word?? My site has disapeared and I cannot access anything Sue

2005-04-18, 04:44 PM	#17
swedguy Vagabond Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,374	http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ You agree to not use the Service to: a. upload, post, email, transmit or otherwise make available any Content that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tortious, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable;

2005-04-19, 06:50 AM	#20
ngb1959 Oh no, I'm sweating like Roger Ebert Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: In A Box, A Big Old Box Posts: 501	All I know is that you're supposed to wear panties when trying on bathing suits and it's very hard to return undergarments that are worn and without the tags still attached. __________________ Ubuymenow Internet Shopping Dreamypleasures Free Porn

2005-04-20, 03:47 PM	#21
Head Boy Hello, is this President Clinton? Good! I figured if anyone knew where to get some tang it would be you Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: England Posts: 442	Yep - scrubbing will reduce the market for used panties (especially with adult content). __________________ Adult domain names for sale at Baronets Splinkies have arrived

2005-04-24, 11:27 AM	#22
Wizzo Well you know boys, a nuclear reactor is a lot like women. You just have to read the manual and press the right button Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Back In Houston! Posts: 155	It's Illegal to mail, because of the Potential Bio-hazard it poses... Basically, say some girl has some funky disease and traces of that is on her dirty panties and she mails it to a different part of the world, hence spreading that disease... That's what the govt. is trying to prevent... At least that's what we're told by 3 different lawyers, when we were researching doing a similar type site... Now as for the site and why it's not selling... I would say two reasons... The 1st as mentioned above the purchase links are very tough to find, especially for a "one handed" horny surfer... Second, and the MAIN problem is that most guys looking for panties are looking for a souvenir of a particular girl, but there's not even a faceshot of Susan, Donna, or Tina... The site seems very impersonal. In fact, to be honest, the site looks like someone that bought 3 content sets, gave them names and are trying to scam someone into thinking these girls are real... Which I would think doesn't work well for selling used panties... Hope that didn't sound to harsh, but just what I see as the problem... __________________ Juicy Ads- Buy & Sell Ads, Popunders, and Mobile!