how many LLs do you submit freesites to?

[emmanuelle]

This looks like a good time to ask a couple of dumb questions.
1- Why wouldn't someone submit to as many as possible? At least every one that generally accepts them?

2- This question is for Danielle- I'd love to know how you got over 100 link list owners to accept your freesites. Don't link list owners prefer that you offer them as hfs? After all, you've had a paysite and affiliate program for some time. For some reason I've always assumed that link list owners would not be receptive to me submitting my own freesites on a regular basis. I could be wrong though, and would love to hear it :-)

[Useless]

Originally Posted by emmanuelle

1- Why wouldn't someone submit to as many as possible? At least every one that generally accepts them?

That is competely dependent on whether or not the individual submitter feels that it's worth the effort. I personally find submitting to be a very stressful and time-consuming process. Therefore, my list is exceedingly short. I also prefer not to create mirrors of my free sites in hopes that the SE gods and goddesses with bestow many blessings upon them. Yes, I could alter each mirror, but that falls back to whether or not one feels it's worth the extra effort. Most mass submitters simply mirror like crazy in an attempt to grab as much traffic as possible. I've wondered if it's truly worth it, from a sales standpoint, but the people who admit to submitting to all 7,000 link lists tend not to post too much and never really state its value. They must be too busy submitting.

[SheepGuy]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

That is competely dependent on whether or not the individual submitter feels that it's worth the effort. I personally find submitting to be a very stressful and time-consuming process. Therefore, my list is exceedingly short. I also prefer not to create mirrors of my free sites in hopes that the SE gods and goddesses with bestow many blessings upon them. Yes, I could alter each mirror, but that falls back to whether or not one feels it's worth the extra effort. Most mass submitters simply mirror like crazy in an attempt to grab as much traffic as possible. I've wondered if it's truly worth it, from a sales standpoint, but the people who admit to submitting to all 7,000 link lists tend not to post too much and never really state its value. They must be too busy submitting.

I agree, I love building but I hate submitting and mirroring I try to time my submitting so it only takes up the first period of a hockey game. I'll only mirror a site that I feel really kicks ass and since I'm my own harshest critic not many pass that test Also, I rarely spend much time worrying about SE's unless I'm working a small niche where the competition's not too tough.

[KG Gary]

For a niche like mature or oral I submit to around 72. For some of the more obscure niches it's more like 30-40, depending on who doesn't accept the variety of porn I'm promoting, like pregnant or watersports.

72-ish Link Lists is the number I'm used to submitting to now, so on those days where I'm promoting a less popular niche it's a bit of a blessing when the submit time is halved.
I don't hate submitting....yet, as it still feels very satisfying - like the end of a working day.
It usually takes me around 30-40 minutes to do a full 72LL submit using FireFox tabs, and I try my best to relentlessly do it every 24 hours and five minutes, 7 days per week.


I hate missing a day, as I figure someone else is then grabbing my sales, and they're mine, I tell you, all mine!


Keeping freesites looking different and fresh is bloody hard!

[Wiggles]

Originally Posted by emmanuelle

This looks like a good time to ask a couple of dumb questions.
1- Why wouldn't someone submit to as many as possible? At least every one that generally accepts them?

2- This question is for Danielle- I'd love to know how you got over 100 link list owners to accept your freesites. Don't link list owners prefer that you offer them as hfs? After all, you've had a paysite and affiliate program for some time. For some reason I've always assumed that link list owners would not be receptive to me submitting my own freesites on a regular basis. I could be wrong though, and would love to hear it :-)

i think you missed the point about freesites.

[emmanuelle]

Originally Posted by Wiggles

i think you missed the point about freesites.

Maybe you can fill me in then?

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Wiggles

i think you missed the point about freesites.

If you have a point, make it. What's the value of an empty remark like that? She knows full well the point of free sites and hosted free sites.

[Preacher]

Originally Posted by emmanuelle

This looks like a good time to ask a couple of dumb questions.
1- Why wouldn't someone submit to as many as possible? At least every one that generally accepts them?

2- This question is for Danielle- I'd love to know how you got over 100 link list owners to accept your freesites. Don't link list owners prefer that you offer them as hfs? After all, you've had a paysite and affiliate program for some time. For some reason I've always assumed that link list owners would not be receptive to me submitting my own freesites on a regular basis. I could be wrong though, and would love to hear it :-)

2) Personally I'd have no problem listing freesites from sponsors,though I've only seen a few in the past. The main problem I see, is the same as it is for HFS, it kind of discourages me from building free sites for that sponsor for fear of redundant content.

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

That is competely dependent on whether or not the individual submitter feels that it's worth the effort. I personally find submitting to be a very stressful and time-consuming process. Therefore, my list is exceedingly short.

That is me to a "T".

[Danielle]

Originally Posted by emmanuelle

This looks like a good time to ask a couple of dumb questions.
1- Why wouldn't someone submit to as many as possible? At least every one that generally accepts them?

2- This question is for Danielle- I'd love to know how you got over 100 link list owners to accept your freesites. Don't link list owners prefer that you offer them as hfs? After all, you've had a paysite and affiliate program for some time. For some reason I've always assumed that link list owners would not be receptive to me submitting my own freesites on a regular basis. I could be wrong though, and would love to hear it :-)

I don't submit my own freesites for my paysite unless the link list does not use fhg's. I am talking about sites we build for other sponsors.

Hugs,
Danielle